Density and 3 wheeler love

[Sublunacy]

Density is all around us all the time but you can't see it and nobody sells it outright. Nobody owns the rights either so I can explain its unequalled importance and how you can get some, or less of it Density more important than gravity. Without Density the galaxy doesn't work and Gravity collapses in return. As Gravity is a function of density.

Density is allways getting hinted at thou. we are constantly buying sweet stuff that lowers weight. Removing weight is the best!Its the difference between a fast trike that handles well for the rider. And one that is heavy, slow and diffucult to manuver, And with size remaining the same, we are then talking entirely about density. As the point being you can drop weight and make it smaller.......
Density is an interesting thing to look at, as when you have more or less the things around it have different physical forces in relation to it. Thats not true with weight as when it changes, the forces are the same. There for weight loss gives a linear rate of performance. And density gives a rising rate.

I degress if the density changes the machines properties in the world around it changes in a non linear manner and will be a rising rate. Hence the performance curve goes way up in real world use. On paper without super computers its useless to acount for. And only shows its face after its built. Feel me here?


The performance benefits of lowering wieght and density is there for uncomputable. Hence the thousand uses a riders unput has to the building of a machine. And the importance of keeping weight down. Then I haven't even brought up the power and weight ratio yet. acceleration is NOT affected by density thou. Power to weight ratio yields a linear performance gain, and that is very easily computed.

Weight loss is entirely measurable So is leverage but Density is not and must be experianced for the fullest experiance of it.

This is all juice for 3 wheelers. Power to weight to traction ratio is awesome and has no competitors
Comments?

[dougspcs]

WOW man...that is some pretty deep shlt. You a savant or something???...you got alot going on in your noodle!!!

I just ride my trikes cause they're fun!!! I don't need to understand the grade 11 Physics of it!!

[Sublunacy]

Thanks i can simplify by saying that if you make bike faster is totally measurable, and yeilds a linear performance gain.
But if you make bike lighter and the size remains the same the density goes down and the performance jumps with a rising rate and real world performance skyrockets but on paper only the weight is measurable.

[tri again]

wow, cool. Glad Somebody is thinking.
I'd like to devote more time to this topic.

I'm now flashing on the hoverboards from back to the future.
Helium in the tires?

[Dave Little]

Anybody else get to the fourth sentence and realize we're talking about a property of matter and not the meaning of life?

[tri again]

Anybody else get to the fourth sentence and realize we're talking about a property of matter and not the meaning of life?

Good call.

I was waiting for someone to break the code.

[beets442]

>>>>>>>p/w<<<<<<

[Vealmonkey]

Lowering weight is lowering weight. I don't really think density comes into play. It's not like you are changing the structural integrity of the materials on a molecular level. To change a machines weight and keep it the same size, well that's just simple matter of detail. That's why people drilled brake drums and discs, that is why people made aftermarket frames of lighter and stronger materials and why some people used fiberglass instead of plastic or metal for certain items, or why people removed headlights and taillights and stuff like that. You don't have to add power to any mechanical object if you can lighten it. A wholly known idea. Also you can change things to make a more aerodynamic shape to go through the air, to make it's shape more friendly to have a smaller front area or more streamlined frontal area to make the object have to displace or move less air as it moves forward. Slingshot dragsters or fairings on sportbikes illustrate this quite nicely. But alot of aerodymics don't really matter on a machine that is generally not going to do more than 70 miles and hour. And then alot of things really factor into the application of what you intend to do with the machine. Shooting down short straightaways and tossing it left doesn't really need alot of aerodynamics. Lighter weight, yes that helps tons. I would think what you need to keep in mind is, you are wanting to do trick riding on a machine that was really light an unstable in the front end to begin with. Not necessarily the best to want to perform certain tricks on. Not knocking your build, just food for thought.

[fabiodriven]

Shut the hell up sub. Your lack of experience with trikes is painfully obvious and your ability to form a paragraph is less than impressive.

[Sublunacy]

-Whatever Fabio with a likely stolen name and Avatar. I can index everything for you. But I will not reference it further thou and feed you. As im talking about what is on my mind. FORUM STYLE.

-im just talking about performance and where it comes from. The kind that can't be measured and there for is totally not applicable to anything.
- To date i have had a trike for 4 months tops. I think im doing OK. Im hopeing desperatly someone with a degree can pipe up and ease my mind but Im not sure that is possible to get a real answer. Thats why i can't stop thinking about it. Its like explaining horticulture to a plant as an example.

[DasUberKraut]

Thanks to Sublunacy for making everyone now as dumb as he is. The only thing worse than his redundancy, is his grammar.

[tontom]

what ever you guys is smoking i want some lol happy christmass lol

[Sublunacy]

The application is everywhere but nowhere.

- like when you land a jump. less density= less impact in a nutshell. everybody knows that /so why are you arguing and what with? And why should I explain it. I have other things to do you know. Im not pulling this out of any text /so that means my balls are friggin huge :)

- an item that takes up space in an area of matter. Floatation is a key factor. the inertia stays the same but floatation between densities changes easing the mobility of the item.

Hurts hearing this doesn't it. points back to my other point that a plant hears not about horticulture.

[fabiodriven]

Keep posting. I am so diggin that profile pic.

[Dirtcrasher]

I only dropped acid a couple times when I was young, that was more than enough for my density to withstand........

Thanks to my god "Zorgonplatix", I am still structurally sound which is related to the delusions within ones mind.

[threewheelin-feelin]

i dont think i have been more confused about anything...then i am about this entire thread.....

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Well, allow me to retort......

I was married to a widow, who was pretty as can be.
This widow, had a grown-up daughter,
Who had hair of red.
My father fell in love with her and soon they too were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law,
And really changed my life.
Now my daughter was my mother,
Cause she was my father's wife.
And to complicate the matter,
Even though it brought me joy,
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad,
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad.
For, if-if he were my uncle, then that also made him brother.
Of the widow's grown up daughter, who was of course, my stepmother.
Uh huh.
Father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run,
And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue.
Because although she is my wife, she's my grandmother too.
God.
Now, if my wife is my grandmother, I am her grandchild, yeah.
And every time I think of it, heh! Nearly drives me wild.
Cause now I have become, the strangest case you ever saw,
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpaw.
Oh I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
It sounds funny I know, but it really is so,
Oh I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
Talk about incest!
It sounds funny I know, but it really is so,
I'm my own grandpaw.

:lol::naughty:

[jeswinehart]

As my wife + I wait to wish Jesus our lord Happy Birthday as we have done for many years, I have NO clue as to why this post brings David Allen Coe to mind,,,?

But there it is ~ and here it is > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG2UUJLp8Zs

[HuffieVA]

As my wife + I wait to wish Jesus our lord Happy Birthday as we have done for many years, I have NO clue as to why this post brings David Allen Coe to mind,,,?

But there it is ~ and here it is > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG2UUJLp8Zs

Thats not David Allen Coe but Gary Lee & Showdown... DAC was a little worse... :D but I'll buy you a :beer for the effort, Merry Christmas

[Headsup]

Yep, You lost me as soon as you started getting into physics...

Anyway the poem was nice, Made me laugh LOL Thanks Ride red.

Merry Christmas.!

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Yep, You lost me as soon as you started getting into physics...

Anyway the poem was nice, Made me laugh LOL Thanks Ride red.

Merry Christmas.!

I can't take the credit for the poem. It's actually an old song by Ray Stevens. But, for some reason I thought it applied in this thread somehow?? ;)

Merry Christmas!

[phantombiker]

Keep posting. I am so diggin that profile pic.

im laughing so hard i think i just peed a little...lmao!!!

[dougspcs]

Well, allow me to retort......

I was married to a widow, who was pretty as can be.
This widow, had a grown-up daughter,
Who had hair of red.
My father fell in love with her and soon they too were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law,
And really changed my life.
Now my daughter was my mother,
Cause she was my father's wife.
And to complicate the matter,
Even though it brought me joy,
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad,
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad.
For, if-if he were my uncle, then that also made him brother.
Of the widow's grown up daughter, who was of course, my stepmother.
Uh huh.
Father's wife then had a son who kept them on the run,
And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue.
Because although she is my wife, she's my grandmother too.
God.
Now, if my wife is my grandmother, I am her grandchild, yeah.
And every time I think of it, heh! Nearly drives me wild.
Cause now I have become, the strangest case you ever saw,
As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpaw.
Oh I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
It sounds funny I know, but it really is so,
Oh I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
I'm my own grandpaw.
Talk about incest!
It sounds funny I know, but it really is so,
I'm my own grandpaw.

:lol::naughty:

Way to jack the thread..no I mean it. Way to jack the thread!!!..it was circling the drain from the 1st post.

At least this I understood!!

[Russell 350X]

Sub, I'd like to know what drugs you are on, so I may never take them. You are the most confusing person I know.

[bkm]

Hey Sublunacy,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0qsi1z4Fi8&feature=related

[Russell 350X]

^^^lmfao!!!!!!^^^^

[RamsesRibb]

less density= less impact in a nutshell. my balls are friggin huge :)
So you say. But are they dense?

[Sublunacy]

No MORE Rhyms! I meen it! Anybody want a peanut? The Prince's Bride... yea great movie.
You are a fantastic poets very illuminating. Thank you. i will Retire, Humbled and Fearfull of my mistakes. Joking of course.
Peace!

[Grindin' Gearz]

Well, by this logic, a bike with less density is best, so why dont we build frames out of wood? With big fat wood tires! Then they'll all float, and be great in the jumps... Hmmmmmm...... Nah F it, ill stick with my bikes the way the engineers designed it, :)

[brapp]

not necicarily a dencer bike is not always best take 2 bikes with the same power one thats 100 lbs and one thats 220 the one thats 100 lbs will ahve a ness coeficient of friction and in turn have more issues with getitgn traction to the ground. where the accelerations is quicker but only if it can get the power into traction. but its the balance of the weight and traction and power ratio that comes into play. does this make more sence than the first post here?

[RamsesRibb]

not necicarily a dencer bike is not always best take 2 bikes with the same power one thats 100 lbs and one thats 220 the one thats 100 lbs will ahve a ness coeficient of friction and in turn have more issues with getitgn traction to the ground. where the accelerations is quicker but only if it can get the power into traction. but its the balance of the weight and traction and power ratio that comes into play. does this make more sence than the first post here?
I have an idea. We could make a frame from a lightweight material and then place a holding tank for water over the axle for traction. After takeoff when less traction is needed a chute opens and dumps the extra weight payload as speed is increased.

[250sxatc]

wooow this thread is so full of insanity its halarious lets here more haha:beer

[RIDE-RED 250r]

Well, I think this fella sums it up pretty nicely....

[RamsesRibb]

bump.... :)