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1985BigRed250ES
10-23-2011, 05:52 PM
hey guys, i am needing some help here with my 83 atc 70. it has no pull start so it has to be push started lol. i can push it with about 1/4 throttle and it will start and run for 5 seconds or so and then die. soon as i start pushing it again it will fire right off with 1/4 throttle, any more it wont run and any less it wont run. i have been thru the carb 4 or 5 times with no luck. i have tried a new spark plug (NGKC7HSA) and it didnt change anything. the choke seems to be not working correctly but it shouldnt keep it from atleast running for more than 5 seconds? I think it might just be time for a new or good carb. does anyone have one they want to sell? also i need a good gas tank that doesnt leak.

1985BigRed250ES
10-23-2011, 09:07 PM
anybody? please help this thing might wind up getting burned and hauled for scrap if i cant get it to run soon. thanks

pullen
10-23-2011, 09:42 PM
if the choke is not working that might be why it wnt start if it hasnt been started in a while. try taking off the air filter nd covering the air intake as a choke. did that with mine before i fixed the choke

CRAZY70MAN
10-24-2011, 06:19 AM
for 30 dollars you can get a brand new one on Ebay and rule it out.

tjrider
10-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Id put a new carb and choke cable on it. If your just going to scrap it Ill come get it. Just sayin.

1985BigRed250ES
10-25-2011, 06:56 PM
anybody got a good carb they will sell to me? i dont have paypal and dont trust ebay too much. i also need a pull starter for it. a member on here has one i think he said needs rebuilt and wanted $80.00 for it, ouch! i didnt pay not even half that for a atc 110 pull starter. thanks guys

ctbale
10-26-2011, 01:54 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400182936019?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I have installed about 6 of these carbs, work great!!!

I have two new ones, I will sell one, but I will have to charge ya $40 to cover the shipping.

350xx
10-26-2011, 03:16 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400182936019?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I have installed about 6 of these carbs, work great!!!

I have two new ones, I will sell one, but I will have to charge ya $40 to cover the shipping.

So he might as well buy straight from ebay!
Whoever doesn't trust ebay had one bad experience, maybe two and theyre just chicken now.

Get an ebay account.
Get a paypal account.
Buy the carb.
Done deal!

ctbale
10-26-2011, 03:41 AM
yea, that where I was trying to head him. ebay is just fine, but sellers pay high fees

1985BigRed250ES
10-29-2011, 01:50 AM
ok thanks for the help. anybody got a recoil starter less than $80.00?

jb2wheels
10-29-2011, 07:53 AM
I know it sucks, $80 for a clean ATC 70 pull start isn't a bad deal.

That's one thing I learned to look for when buying a 70 - pull start and solid seat pan. No pull start = -$100 from asking price and set pans were a deal breaker but now somebody is making reporductions.

1985BigRed250ES
10-30-2011, 01:07 AM
the pullstarter needs rebuilt. and who makes seat pans for em?

jb2wheels
10-30-2011, 10:27 AM
http://hondaatc70.com/Niftyitems.aspx

Fungo Wizard
10-30-2011, 11:22 AM
the pullstarter needs rebuilt. and who makes seat pans for em? So rebuild it.

1985BigRed250ES
10-30-2011, 11:49 AM
fungo, i have never rebuilt a pull start, last time i took one apart and the spring came out, it went in the trash can and i just purchased another from someone here on 3WW and jb2wheels, thanks man.

Fungo Wizard
10-30-2011, 03:33 PM
Fair enough, but don't throw it in the trash.

1985BigRed250ES
10-30-2011, 09:23 PM
I was like 20 at the time and really wasnt into 3 wheelers that much and the 110 sat from then which was 2007 or so until 2009 when i decided to restore it and not scrap it.

Thorpe
10-30-2011, 10:05 PM
Hire someone to rebuild your pullstart. They are easy. (I have done it on my '83-70....)

Fungo Wizard
10-31-2011, 02:14 PM
I was like 20 at the time and really wasnt into 3 wheelers that much and the 110 sat from then which was 2007 or so until 2009 when i decided to restore it and not scrap it. I can relate to that! I was 20 when I bought my 87 200x and first thing I did was power wash the stickers right off the fenders. Seemed like a good idea at the time, now I kick myself everyday for it.

thestud25
10-31-2011, 03:21 PM
I can relate to that! I was 20 when I bought my 87 200x and first thing I did was power wash the stickers right off the fenders. Seemed like a good idea at the time, now I kick myself everyday for it.

You had a mullet and listened to Leif Garret too!!

pcollins
10-31-2011, 03:26 PM
That spring takes 5 minutes to just wind back up onto the little pulley. I've done it many times.

jb2wheels
10-31-2011, 04:22 PM
Well, it takes 5 minutes once you get the hang of it but it takes hours to get the hang of it...

Fungo Wizard
11-01-2011, 09:45 AM
You had a mullet and listened to Leif Garret too!! Well your partially right, I did have a world class mullet, but no Leif Garrett. Straight Metallica for me while I was powerwashing stickers off and trying not to get my mullet wet!!!

mullet
11-01-2011, 11:16 AM
You had a mullet and listened to Leif Garret too!!

"No way, I don't listen to that crap. I'm a rocker, through and through. Here's a list of my favorite bands: AC/DC, Van Halen, not Van Hagar, Skynyrd, Def Lep..."

-Joe Dirt

Haha, couldn't resist...

Fungo Wizard
11-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Stud is still living his teenage days with Leif Garrett posters hanging on his bedroom wall.

Thorpe
11-01-2011, 12:26 PM
"No way, I don't listen to that crap. I'm a rocker, through and through. Here's a list of my favorite bands: AC/DC, Van Halen, not Van Hagar, Skynyrd, Def Lep..."

-Joe Dirt

Haha, couldn't resist...

Settle down now.... Don't make me call your probation officer....

Great movie!

thestud25
11-01-2011, 07:22 PM
Settle down now.... Don't make me call your probation officer....

Great movie!

One of my top 5 favorite comedies. "You like to look at homos naked?"

Thorpe
11-01-2011, 09:15 PM
Whah??? Nah, hom iz whur you mak kit.... Evrybuddy nos tat....

mullet
11-01-2011, 09:34 PM
Guy likes to see homos naked...that doesn't help me any.

Thorpe
11-01-2011, 11:41 PM
I found out cows, dont like bottle rockets as much as I do...!

Back to the O.P.... You need someone to rebuild your pullstart?

1985BigRed250ES
11-02-2011, 01:31 AM
thorpe, the pull start that i have is rusted bad, 2 of the 3 bolt holes or tabs is rusted off the pull start. wehn i purchased the 70 the pullstart had been laying on the ground beside it for a couple of years. i need another recoil starter but dont have the $80.00 to put into it right now.

thestud25
11-02-2011, 02:08 PM
thorpe, the pull start that i have is rusted bad, 2 of the 3 bolt holes or tabs is rusted off the pull start. wehn i purchased the 70 the pullstart had been laying on the ground beside it for a couple of years. i need another recoil starter but dont have the $80.00 to put into it right now.

I happen to have a nice functioning 70 pull starter. Do you have any 250es fenders you want to trade if you don;t have $$??

1985BigRed250ES
11-02-2011, 11:45 PM
i dont have any plastics for a bigred. i do have bigred rear end parts though.

oldtime3wheeler
11-03-2011, 08:25 PM
Well, it takes 5 minutes once you get the hang of it but it takes hours to get the hang of it...
I second that. The first ti me I replaced a spring it took forever and seemed almost impossible. Now I can pull one apart replace the spring and have it all back together in like 10 minutes. Actually did one 2 weekends ago for a buddy.

Plus atc70 pullstarts are like gold, they just keep going up in price.

1985BigRed250ES
11-03-2011, 11:32 PM
if thats the case, the atc 70 is leaving, it isnt worth my time. i guess i will stick with the bigger atcs. it was a dream to own the whole honda line of atcs from the atc 70 all the way up2 the atc 350x. oh well the atc 70 doesnt look like will be part of it. i have a 250sx, bigred 250es, atc 110 and now working on getting a atc 250r and a atc 200x.

350xx
11-03-2011, 11:39 PM
if thats the case, the atc 70 is leaving, it isnt worth my time. i guess i will stick with the bigger atcs. it was a dream to own the whole honda line of atcs from the atc 70 all the way up2 the atc 350x. oh well the atc 70 doesnt look like will be part of it. i have a 250sx, bigred 250es, atc 110 and now working on getting a atc 250r and a atc 200x.


Ill take it!!!

pcollins
11-05-2011, 09:44 AM
Well, it takes 5 minutes once you get the hang of it but it takes hours to get the hang of it...

Didn't take me hours to get the hang of it....I thought it was pretty straightforward. Wind it up onto the pulley, set the pulley back in the case and put it all back together. I've seen people try and wind the spring back into the case and that doesn't work at all....

1985BigRed250ES
11-06-2011, 02:40 AM
350xx i think i will push it into the nearby woods here on our property and let it sit there and maybe one year i will drag it back up and do something with it. got too many projects right now anyway. i got a 250sx that needs new bearings in the rear, new tires and a rim. i got a 1988 honda trx 300 2wd that needs the rear end rebuilt and a few other things i have forgot.

350xx
11-06-2011, 03:53 AM
350xx i think i will push it into the nearby woods here on our property and let it sit there and maybe one year i will drag it back up and do something with it. got too many projects right now anyway. i got a 250sx that needs new bearings in the rear, new tires and a rim. i got a 1988 honda trx 300 2wd that needs the rear end rebuilt and a few other things i have forgot.

Poor 70.
:(

oldtime3wheeler
11-06-2011, 09:47 AM
Sell it to get some funds for other projects and in a year or 2 buy another. Dont send it out to rot in the woods!

350xx
11-06-2011, 03:25 PM
Sell it to get some funds for other projects and in a year or 2 buy another. Dont send it out to rot in the woods!

I second that!

1985BigRed250ES
11-06-2011, 03:30 PM
what would it be worth? would be willing to trade it for a good rear diff for a 1988 honda trx 300 or a good rear end for my 85 250sx.