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kinyocase
09-30-2011, 11:54 PM
Howdy folks,

New member here in need of some information on fixing this little gem. I picked up a 1985 200x from a guy for an incredibly low price. I was loading the ride in my van to take it to the guys house, but asked him what he'd have to get to sell it. I then drove off with my awesomely awesome $50 200x. Got home, dropped her out of my van and kicked her over. Bada boom first kick she started right up. She won't idle properly which I blame on old gas in the tank and what is probably an incredibly crudded up carb.

I took her for a quick spin only to realize the rear brakes were seized. I took the master cylinder off and after a day of cleaning it up got that to move freely as it should be. I hooked the master back up and then realized that the caliper was completely seized up. Took the caliper off and cleaned the heck out of it. (Question #1: how much force should it take to move the "piston" of the rear caliper?) I got the caliper moving but it takes a good 25-45lbs of push to move it in and out. Put this all back together, and began trying to get some fluid from the reservoir down into the master. I'm not getting any fluid through the master up into the rear brake lines. (Question #2: what the heck am I doing wrong here :D? The piston inside the cylinder moves very fluidly but it just isn't pushing any fluid up and out of the master.) It seems as if some fluid is sneaking passed the plunger in the master cylinder and leaking back into the boot. I'm assuming this is going to require a rebuild kit to get it back up to par, but maybe you guys have another idea I could take on.

I've already located a new air cleaner and will be getting that in this week. New rear pads are on order and will be here Tuesday. I'm going to replace the front boots as they are tore up pretty decent.

(Back story on this 200x)
I started working on a farm way back in 2001. I was 15 and had moved over to this farm after two years working on a different farm. When me and my buddy started on this new farm we saw this little 200x sitting inside an old wood shed with open walls. We dried our darndest to get a hold of this little beauty back then but nobody wanted to deal with us. After about three years working there we never saw this one again. Yesterday I was on my way home and got a call from the foreman who needed a ride back to the ranch. Stopped off to put a tractor away and what to my surprise but the exact same 3-wheeler from all those years ago. Always nice to have a relic from your past come back in a positive way.

Sorry for such a long first post. I hope this doesn't scare off any potential help. I'm certainly not new to 3-wheelers as the farm I work on has 4 big reds and had this 200x that we never saw ridden. I've been riding the big reds since I started back in 2001, but this 200x is my first ever owned atc/atv.

Thanks in advance for any information you guys can pass on.

Kinyocase

Addicted
10-01-2011, 12:24 AM
They love big story's, and PICTURESSSS!!! nice score!

kinyocase
10-01-2011, 12:31 AM
Pictures definitely to come tomorrow. She needs new rear plastic, seat foam and cover. Will be replacing parts as funds become available just need to figure out what I'm doing. I found the thread on changing the front and rear calipers to newer bike calipers and cylinders so I may look around for some decently priced used items. I've got a Clymer Honda service manual right next to me so that's gonna help big time in getting stuff taken care of.

kinyocase
10-01-2011, 04:07 PM
Took the camera out this afternoon to snap a few quick pics of how she looks right now. Hope you guys enjoy checkin these out. I'm gonna rip the master off again and do the pin through the intake hole to hopefully allow fluid into the cylinder.

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Hope you guys enjoy it. Any comments or questions feel free to ask away.

Jason125m
10-01-2011, 04:32 PM
Nice find, she will clean up nice! 50 bucks is a score!!!

the great gazoo
10-01-2011, 05:10 PM
Sweet! What kinda pipe is that? Kind of looks like a Cobra, but I don't recognize that sticker,

atc007
10-01-2011, 05:33 PM
1st off ,welcome! 2nd,,VERY intelligent post!! You're gonna be just fine here! Ok,,here's how to bleed stubborn brakes,,this is assuming everything is working,,which I believe yours is. I think you're gonna find your slider pins are sticky seized,,but that's after we get her bled out. Start at the master,,bleed on the bolt on the master. When that is perfectly good and clear,move back to the hose going into the caliper. Bleed that thoroughly,,THEN you can try bleeding at the bleeder bolt! it takes awhile,,but you'll get her. Post back w any ?? 's! Good luck ! And pressure wash her off over at the farm,,ok? lol. You're gonna find a VERY pretty bike underneath there!

kinyocase
10-01-2011, 11:14 PM
Thanks loads for the welcomes guys. I tore down the carb and cleaned everything as well as adjusting back to factory. I've got her idleing now still a bit on the high side a few more tweaks and we should be golden. Going to redo all fuel lines next week along with rear pads and a few other minor things. She needs a new throttle cable and throttle as this one is busted up pretty decent.

The pipe is a Cobra Pipe at least the sticker you are seeing says Cobra so I hope that's what it is. But she is one loud son of a gun. Baffel appears to still be in the pipe so not sure why she's so stinkin loud.

@atc007 - on the rear master cylinder should it be allowing fluid to leak back through the bottom into the dust boot? Seems like that plunger in there should be capable of keeping the fluid in without leaking. We pumped on the pedal for a good 30 minutes while plugging the master and releasing air, but never did the fluid leave the resevoir. Tomorrow I will be pulling the cylinder back apart and do the pin in the hole trick. I didn't get a chance to today as I spent the day working on the farm and then cleaning/adjusting the carb.

Thanks again everyone for such an awesome welcome. Got a power washer down at the in-laws I will be using this week to clean the heck out of her. We already cleaned up the top end pretty decent, and will be doing the same with the rest.

Motorious
10-01-2011, 11:42 PM
Pipe looks similar to my Cobra, although yours looks to be painted black and has a slightly different end cap. Mine is loud as hell too (has the baffle as well); I think these are just very non-restrictive pipes. I'd like something a bit quieter sometimes 'cause it's just a tad bit obnoxious, but I think it has a nice tone, almost like a mini 1 cylinder Harley.

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Jealous of what you paid for yours kinyo, $50 is a SCREAMING deal. Looks like your close to having a rider there. Good luck with it.

kinyocase
10-01-2011, 11:50 PM
Good to know Motorious yea I kinda like the sounds she makes when screamin 40mph down the road. I was thinking of takin mine off and over to a buddy to get it polished up to look nice. She really is starting to come along in terms of running quality I just really need to pretty her up a bit.