Sublunacy's yamaha tri moto 175 build

[Sublunacy]

Found my weapon of choice local. $200 or a sweet BMX bike actually so deal made, hapened to have an bmx needing a home. the engine runs good, but many long time loose bolts and crud. I have picture of what i want 2 happen. So lets get on with it :naughty:

[Sublunacy]

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Heres the right side oil pump cover, painted/ colour matched to the wheels, wich are getting done this week.
Tech- cover is made of plastic so i gave it 1 solid coat of Krylons Fusion paint ( had black) then 20 minutes after started with the key lime colour wich is rustoleum that will be great for sticking on the steel wheels. Did three coates of the key lime in about an hours time.

[Sublunacy]

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Here i wanted to get rid of the automatic oiler. this is what i did. removed the extra bits leaving the gaping hole wich was tapped out. i think u can see it there. used a metric pipe plug and gasket maker for that. Rest is pretty straight forward, but i wanted the old pump to be as light as possible and be sealed from the elements by removing the sources of possible leaks.

like i said thats pretty straight forward, but there are some juicy pics for people wanting a similar setup.

Tonight i will start grinding and cleaning the front wheel/ preping for paint, maybe have some pics tmrw. Will take me a little while thou since i need to gather items to clean the wheels properly with electrolisis solution/ if trailprotrailpro not sure what that is do a google search and i apoligize for my spelling there.

[Husky250]

That's a toy I want!

[thestud25]

Interested to see where this goes.

[the great gazoo]

Me too, looks interesting.

[Sublunacy]

While i gather some NOS parts im wondering what to do with the stock wheels?
I will do some more searches tonight. the rear wheels will be replaced with douglas rims, but im concerned about tire clearance since i want the largest balloon tires on the back since it is a hard tail. either the stock size with a 2 inch dish or upsize to the 10 inch banshee wheel with the same 2 inch dish.
the carlisle trail pro's i see on alot of bikes? what size would they be? cause they fit nice!

On the front i want another douglas wheel, maybe a little narrower and taller like a 250R

If anyone has any thoughts on this gear i would appreciate it.

[Kfx-xc-racer88]

Don't mention trail pros!!! its gonna kick off!! lol

[Sublunacy]

LOL ok i won't use the "C" word again.
OK guys after stareing at the clouds for days deliberating this and that. I decided my "little" bike needs to grow up a little! But before I let the cat out of the bag here i would first like to state a fact that for "ME" I am VERY happy it is a hard tail, many reasons, heres a few- alot lighter ,lower, no suspension to bottom out when overloaded with weight.

Im getting my income taxes back and i want a really nice trike. Let me know what you think please.
Atc250r front end, wheel, brake, whole thing......
Banshee rear end with the G force rear axle........Banshee carrier,disc,sprocket, and all hubs needed plus the GSXR 600 gold rear brake caliper and Douglas wheels.

Then the bike would be wider, longer, more susp travel and have front and rear hydro disc brakes with really nice callipers. That all can be done for a reasonable price. Considering the only thing on my trike that doesn't need replacing is the engine, im certainly not wasting my money on parts i don't need...
Needs wheels forks headlight plus plus plus plus plus.

[Jason125m]

This will be an awesome build if you can do everything you stated in your post. Looking forward to seeing it done! You're in kingston Ontario?

Jason

[Sublunacy]

yea kingston, and yes it is started, this is not a wish list. The Trike has been dangling off my block and tackle for weeks.
Lol i have been trying to buy parts for days but these forum guys are hard to get ahold of.

[Kfx-xc-racer88]

Theres nothing like somebody telling you it can't be done to inspire you to do it!!

just keep posting pics as you go along!!

[Sublunacy]

thanks!
i have some forks, front wheel and fender coming in the mail should be here in about 2 weeks. I will have to swap the yt head tube into the 250r forks when it gets here.
This trike is going to be ssssoooooo light :) it will easilly be under 250 pounds. Stock factory weight is 260, but that is with alot of really heavy steel parts, wich are are getting swapped for aluminum racing parts so maybe 225 pounds or better. i know it will be feather light thou, im just tryin to tease you guys with my guess on weight. :)

[atc007]

Good one,,,It will be MUCH heavier than that,,very neat build though! Looking forward to this!

[Lil Earl]

sounds like it is coming along nicely, i dont think 225 pounds but it will still be light. i think youll like it

[Sublunacy]

I don't know guys lol, but i think 225...:)
im still stumped on the seat, this is the deal/ its steel seems its very very heavy, it must weight 25 pounds! including the rear fender allmost 40 pounds. i really want to replace the seat with a plastic one. I would pay large for a plastic seat that fit nicely. Anyone ever seen a NOS plastic seat or something that could fit? >suggestions please?

[muthey]

I know where there is a 175 sitting that is in pieces, and the seat is there let me check I'd almost think it was plastic, but like I said let me double check for you

[Vealmonkey]

The yt125/yt175 seat pans are steel. If you want to do something differnt, maybe try making your own fiberglass seat pan, but the best of luck attaching the seat cover to the pan, as they are held on by teeth on the steel seat pans. Your only alternative with a fiberglass pan would be to glue the cover on. You could try an aluminum base of somekind, but the yt125 pan is not perfectly flat, so that may present problems in itself. You want to be creative, show us how creative you can be. Also, in seeing what you wrote about installing the 250r front end, I'm not sure about cutting and welding the neck. But it's your neck, so have fun. There would be other ways to go about doing what you are doing. I would think you would be better off making some custom triple trees and reusing the yt175 steering stem. A couple thick, flat pieces of aluminum should get you started. Then you could use the forks off the 250r or you could use yz80 forks, like some of the old aftermarket sellers sold. Heck, I have a set of triple trees that use yz80 forks that I could trace onto a piece of thick paper that would have all the proper dimensions for your triple trees if need be.

[Sublunacy]

i hear you.
About the head tube, i might have to make one.... i won't know untill it gets here really. the 250r triples are aluminum, would be nice to have an aluminum headtube aswell. Yes i know the headtube taper's and so do the threads on threaded head tubes. But there is more than one way to lock down the headtube....
So i will get back to you all on my solution. Thanks for the interest in my build guys.

about the seat lol :) this is the deal. My dr 350 seat and steel tank actually fit pretty nice! So if you can picture it/ im this close to ditching the rear fender alltogether. Pictures probably speek a thousand here so i will drag my laptop down and give you guys a look at it.

[muthey]

just an updat I did get a look at the 175 I know of and it indeed does have a plastic seat, so let me know if you are possibly interested I can get pictures if you want

[Sublunacy]

I would like to see the seat, thanks.

time to update a little. the mail man came a few times and i would like to thank Danaz and Jeremy G for all the sweet parts.

Coffman pipes, front to back :)
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1985 250R front end.
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And here are pics of the stripped yt175

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I like the look of the bike without the funny gas tank. I have a line on a Fuel bottle I can make from some available Triumph parts. i will see if i can get my hands in it.

i will update again soon! :)

[Sublunacy]

I found a frame headtube from a wrecked 86 250r...Its on the way :).
Cosidering all the options with the new 10 inch travel forks and the dual piston hyd. caliper brakes. I felt it was best just to TIG weld the front end of the honda to the yami/ then i get factory steer stops. Allso I know the head tube won't ovalize if im doing no footer downhill stoppies. Or trying to plant a jump with a nice transition landing. Also wheely drops will be in the trikes future. It will not have an easy life thats for sure, but anything my baby needs my baby gets as they say :)

The new fork will raise the front end about 4 inches. the bike will barely notice the increase, as it is a short bike to begin with it won't be to raked out especially when i weld it on/ i can drop a degree or two wich will help the low speed handling. i will aslo be adding a large gusset to the down tube on the frame to help with frame strength and rigidity. I used to ride alot of BMX and i want to see what this baby can do! wish me luck!

[Sublunacy]

has anyone heard of the frame bending cracking or giving away? in any way? if so, Where? Thanks

[muthey]

I will get pictures of the seat pan for you in the next few days

[Sublunacy]

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I just picked up this aswell.

[Sublunacy]

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[Sublunacy]

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[350xx]

Awesome build!

[Sublunacy]

Thanks very much.


I was searching for carbs since the Coffman pipe was tuned for the 30mm carb. I did't see exactly what i wanted in used condition. And I also was looking for a new Cable and of course more money for the jet kit....then maybe carb parts. Wasn't looking good for a while there.
I found this. :) Whole kit w cable and extra jet sizes Brand new w free shipping too. Shipper was asking $130 So its on the way. Im very very very happy about this. Here's the pic. Its a Mikuni 30mm D slide for the Blaster as you can see from the picture its from CPW on Ebay.

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List of parts needing to be located next. I will update when I find them.
Aftermarket +2 Banshee Axle and hubs and new wheels. That gets the bike running and rolling again. Past that it will just need Brakes and a new handlebar. The bike is getting switched over to 2-4 piston Hyd Disc's Front and rear. I love good brakes on my offroaders :)

[Sublunacy]

Im planning on going WIDE with aftermarket stuff. nothing drastic, doesn't need to be with a hardtail/ very low static CG. As wide as it can be and still offroad good. I dont see a problem with rotating DG wheels backward for trail riding if needed for a weekend? Its possible i might get a stock banshee axle to save weight and width. Im worried that a gforce banshee +2 added with DG +2 wheels added with wide hubs will be 2much.
So i haven't decided yet. shipping on axles for me is disgusting so i only want 2 buy one:)
Im also deciding on rear wheel size still / Thought i should wait on that stuff untill I do. Maybe 8by8 nice tall sidewall but narrow? 8by10 then?

[muthey]

I have been pretty sick and haven't made it out to the farm, haven't forgotten about you though as soon as I get there I will bring the seat pan home and take pics for you

[Sublunacy]

yes please, if that doesn't work i will have to make my own from scratch. No rush I still have many pieces to get.

[Sublunacy]

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[Sublunacy]

I just got these Tusk Hubs today aswell, Its the new version with the cone washer kit and nuts. I happened to get really really lucky on that Moose thumb throttle above on a ATV Part Out, Im not trying to spend alot/ but that Moose TT was $35 to my Door so I couldn't say NO.

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[Sublunacy]

I have NOT purchased yet, but i think this will be my New Aluminum Fuel Tank.
It measures 6by6by8 inches and holds 1 gallon. The nice features are the Flush mount airpane style filler cap and the AN fittings will be a nice upgrade aswell.
Where? As long as i can still find room for a nice intake tube and filter, the tank is hopefully getting mounted in the rear of the frame directly over the rear wheels. But like I said it will take some smart thinking to route the intake tube in such a way that i am happy with it.

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[RubberSalt]

Do you have any plans for reeds or porting or head mods? The stock port work is extremely restrictive. Look into the exexhaust port, you'll see a wall of metal blocking just for starters...

These can be ported to rediculose amounts for a monster gain in power. You can also get ahold of an it/mc/dr175 cylinder(veal knows which) some from what I understand, some fit blaster reeds. From what I have done...'blasters + reed space + some grinding can fit cr125 reeds.

For jetting. You should give 220 as a good starting place. Or the old school trick, fill jet in with solider then drill out. There are also manual clutch set ups off certain dirt bikes. you can also increase the stall of the auto clutch.

[Sublunacy]

Thanks for your interest RS i was beggining to think no one cares about my trike. I totally agree with you on playing with the engine. It was the only piece on my 3wheeler that still worked like the factory intended. Everything was messed, everything was sloppy loose. So im going to build the frame up the way i would want it. I have never riden it yet. only heard it run. Boy did it sound good. really, stock pipes or not it sounded great. I KNOW I will love it. i have had a Honda ATC 125 four stroke hardtail trailprotrailpro. And I have had a 2 stroke dirtbike trailprotrailpro. Im really excited to mix the two like I am doing.

Bad news thou today the ATC250R Frame Head tube I ordered came today. What a piece of trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro! the seller hid the completely damaged side from view in his pictures. So the frame was in a massive accident, something hit the front end HARD and it wrote the frame off. Looks like a twelve year old girl got out a welder and "fixed" it/ sprayed some paint over it and rode it some more. The problem im seing is the workmanship on the patched headtube is smutty, the welds and all the grinding they did to smooth it out ughh What a nightmare!
I guess I can work with it, But im really not impressed as the head tube has been comprimised and the fact hidden from me. I just put in a personal complaint to to seller/ well see what happens. I want all my money back as it is not as described, i figure and the only reason it is usable is because im forced to take this piece of turd and fix it. Im going to clean it up tonight and check the Bearing race lands in the frame with Micrometers to see if everything is still round an d True.

[Sublunacy]

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chopped the back end of the Frame off tonight. Im getting it ready for an adjustable slideing wheelbase 0-4 inch, and Rear Brake caliper mount. Pictured here below.
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[Sublunacy]

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I own this now :) Its the gold GSXR Nissin rear caliper. Its pretty high end unit it for the $15 that I paid for it. It has a piston on each side giving good modulation and power, and because each side self adj there is no need for slideing caliper or disc setups/ Saves weight. I will have to make verticle or fore&aft adjustment on the caliper Adaptor , so as i move the axle back and forth the caliper can allways be in the right spot on the disc. No biggy really sounds more difficult than it is.

[Sublunacy]

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[Sublunacy]

these two are vito's

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[Sublunacy]

this is an ebay oil blockoff. cost about $8.00 i think.
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[Sublunacy]

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Ok to recap, i needed a good headtube to mount the forks on my frame. I checked around and I found this DOM tube above. its much thicker than the stock HT. I am having the machinist make an extra cut so that the seal will have a place to rest, keeping everything clean like stock.

I found the seller on ebay, he has the means to make others if someone needs something/ for basically anymachine. The prices he is asking is exremely fair and he will cut to your specs for allmost free. And fast too! I contacted him yesterday afternoon and he will have it finished today! I ended up paying $45 and its custom machined and shipped to Canada !!! I must say he's great/ easy to talk to aswell. So I am giving glowing recommendations for "raysbikes1963" found on ebay.
If MY measurements are correct then im confident i will be more than pleased with the purchase.

[Sublunacy]

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[Sublunacy]

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Found these GBC sand sharks on 8" douglas blue label rims. im going to get murdered on shipping for these/ but it will keep my machine moving in the winter. I HOPE.

[yamaha driver]

SWEET ive been watching this build the whole time. then looking at my 125, looking back to this build. then sadly driving it stock lol. When or if it ever needs a rebuild then i will beef up the motor like you are doing :)

[muthey]

ok Sub I finally have photos for you when I went and got the seat pan I realized the back fenders were not on it so I'm not 100% sure this goes to the trike but you should be able to tell either way.
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let me know so I can tell the realatives whether the are full of it or not as they swear up and down that's the right seat pan for it.

[Vealmonkey]

Like I've been trying to say all along, that is not the correct seat. The correct seat for the yt125/175 has a metal base. Also the back of the rear fenders hooks to the rear grab bar, much like the old honda atc110 as well as it has a latch towards the front of the seat that unlocks that holds the whole fender assembly into place.136977136978136979136980136981
The seat pictured is a NOS yamaha yt125/175 seat not bolted to the rear fender.

[Louis Mielke]

Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry Jerry!

[muthey]

Oh it's no problem Veal, after I got it and started thinking it over I started doubting my relatives who swore up and down that it was the right pan for it, but I couldn't find any pics of a seat pan to compare it too. Thank you for clearing my thoughts on it and giving me proof to tell them they don't know everything lol. They keep giving me these half jack ideas about what I should do to my trikes, and I keep telling them no their fine the way they are. One of these days I will take pics of what was done to my 84es and show you guys, and my relatives tell me it should be done to the other side as well " a metal fender chicken scratch welded on to it". Sorry to get your hopes up Sub was really hoping they were right and somewhere there was a plastic seat pan made.

[fabiodriven]

All I know is I get excited every time I see Sublunacy's profile picture.

[Vealmonkey]

Fabio, I keep telling you to watch those exhaust fumes! LOL

[Sublunacy]

Muthey Thanks alot for looking and taking pictures of the saddle.
I believe i will find some plastic I can heatnbend and still keep the factory seat latches. However commercial cardboard wrapped in fiberglass does sound like a great way to get the job done. Not looking forward to the cost of fiberglass cloth as I allways feel ripped off purchasing the stuff.

Yamidriver Thanks for your interest! This crack build has cost alot and has a couple hidden agendas, I may or may not have mentioned them previously.
1-Advertising, I am opening a motorsport/small engines shop in the near future, I can't think of a more beautifull Mascot than a jacked up/ 2 stroke 3 wheeler:)
2- Hypothetical- I will be riding this bike Hard. If nothing breaks im not riding it hard enough. I don't mean driving it across plowed feilds at top speed im talking about seeing how long it takes to do a 180 in the air/ On a three wheeler so I can land it backwards. Landing backwards on a totally rigid BMX from 6 feet up is actually super smooth when you get the hang of it. Let a novice do it and they would leave on a stretcher everytime. Look I get bored/ I miss my BMX
On that topic I want to save Fabio some Face and explain my profile pic is me hangin it loose at a local jump park. This proves that Fabio is in fact a Homosapian.
I hope that came out right i feel like im talkin with you in 3rd person Fabio,it just isn't right :)

[Sublunacy]

I found a lonestrar axle nut that needs a polish
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[Sublunacy]

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Fork graphics / fire on polished aluminum wink

[Sublunacy]

Update: Looks like I have everything but an axle now. I grabbed a bunch of small stuff on the weekend. The build is going to start getting better now as everything is coming in the mail, leaving the best part/ bolting everything together.

I have decided on an axle , first i want to ride it stock width for a while.Im curious to see if the stock YT carrier can handle the stress of me riding it harder than its made for etc... Im worried im going to bust it open like a frozen water bottle. Wide is awesome but not so nice for trails and jumping, so Basically in a nut shell I will ride the stock axle and carrier to see if they hold up. Im worried the carrier will explode, and a wide axle only irratates the situation.

Heres a picture of the stock YT axle carrier. I ran out of polishing discs but its half way there, looks crazey nice now actually/ looks expesive... hah


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[Sublunacy]

Thats my 5 foot wooden RC airpane wing behind it. Its the nitro RV-4 sport plane. mostly finished I just need to tap a few holes and put some skin on it and its ready to go. The engine is cool actually its about the size of my fist/ makes 1.2 Hp at 20,000 rpm :)
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[Sublunacy]

I needed some lights on the front
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i got 2 of these to mount the lights under the bars properly
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[Sublunacy]

Whith those lights and a tail light im needning a steady 150 watts approx/ thats less than 15 amps. Does my bike generate enough power? Does the stock headlight run dim at idle? Im going to ditch the relays entirely. im not sure i need a switch either. if the bike makes enough power at idle then no switch needed.
Whats are you guys sayin?

[Sublunacy]

:)
do u like the lights?

[ezmoney1979]

If I remember right the YT is only 6V, so I dont think that will work.

[Sublunacy]

hmmm 6v, well then back to the drawing board. Damn those lights were only $20 local too. No worries/ save them for either cars I guess. heheheee I have a 1991 subaru legacy turbo 2.2L. and 1990 mazda mx6 GT turbo 2.2L daily driver aswell. I looooovvvvveeee the subaru for a thousand reasons, hence my Handle is Sublunacy....:) but the mazda is a 12 Valve truck engine torque monster with a blitz bov, its fun enough.

thanks for the heads up on the chargeing system. Transformer comes to mind first, I really wanted some lights that were from 2010 you know....I will look around there must be new offroad stuff that will do it for me.

i will keep you guys updated i guess phooey

[Sublunacy]

For the Lights I have purchased a pair of banshee headlights, Several reasons.
-lightweight & inexpensive
-comes with the brushguard or whatever
-I can get nice headlight covers *
- I found 6v 35 watt bulbs that fit
- i wanted dual headlights

What are you guys sayin? Do you think that is good?

[Sublunacy]

I found lifted these pictures for reference only.
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So Im thinking that will look hot, critisism welcome?

[Sublunacy]

I got this for christmas from my sister. Its the Trail Tech TTO Tach/hour Gauge. Technology is wonderfull
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Lately I have just been brushing up on a few technical things, and double and triple checking the build so that I can be Prepping the frame next week.

The Engine lower case is slowly getting cleaned up as I want to Anodize it or atleast polish it. So i have spent a an hour every night smoothing out casting deffects and rough seams. Again I am waiting for a couple hundred dremmel sanding drums so it might not be finished for a few weeks:)

Im finished shopping and I have some work to do so I will post when I get some stuff done.

[Sublunacy]

The Frame build part is starting look to really nice. I will post pictures as soon as i can. I think it will look surprisingly HOT thou, and im stressing that the next set of pictures will be a little surpising.
Anyone saying this build is anything but brilliant! knows nothing about the powers of density. Density is all around us all the time but you can't see it and nobody sells it outright. Nobody owns the rights either so I can explain its unequalled importance and how you can get some, or less of it :) Density more important than gravity. Without Density the galaxy doesn't work and Gravity collapses in return.

Density is allways getting hinted at thou. we are constantly buying sweet stuff that lowers weight. Removing weight is the best!Its the difference between a fast trike that handles well for the rider. And one that is heavy, slow and diffucult to manuver, And with size remaining the same, we are then talking entirely about density. As the point being you can drop weight and make it smaller.......
Density is an interesting thing to look at, as when you have more or less the things around it have different physical forces in relation to it. Thats not true with weight as when it changes, the forces are the same. There for weight loss gives a linear rate of performance. And density gives a rising rate.

I degress if the density changes the machines properties in the world around it changes in a non linear manner and will be a rising rate. Hence the performance curve goes way up in real world use. On paper without super computers its useless to acount for. And only shows its face after its built. Feel me here?

Comments?

[Sublunacy]

the performance benefits of lowering wieght and density is there for uncomputable. Hence the thousand uses a riders unput has to the building of a machine. And the importance of keeping weight down. Then I haven't even brought up the power and weight ratio yet. acceleration is NOT affected by density thou. Power to weight ratio yields a linear performance gain, and that is very easily computed.

Weight loss is entirely measurable. Density is not and must be experianced for the fullest experiance of it.

[Louis Mielke]

Dude I really mean it when I say you just totally blow my mind. I'm following this thread just so i keep getting my mind blown over and over and over. About the time I say "THAT'S IT. THIS MAN CAN'T POSSIBLY BLOW MY MIND ANY FURTHER." POW you do it again. Woe, just woe.

[fabiodriven]

Blah blah blah...... I bet you've never even ridden a trike, have you?

[Sublunacy]

yep worn one out, an ATC 125, flown small aircraft, bulldozers, fast production cars, boats, a ferry once, and I had a train set when i was a kid. Best thing I ever drove ever was a Logging Skidder. That thing was the SO COOL, unequalled in torque and its all steel and turns in the middle right? so when u get in a tight situation and run out of room- you just krank the steering wheel and bounce the front or back end off a tree/ and keep going....:) its hillarious and way to much fun how easily it tackles stuff that totally stops everything else in its tracks.

Anyway :) i will be the first to explain i don't know much heheeee evil laugh- waghhahahahhaha

[badass350x]

I Honestly Think the only thing you have worn out is your CRACK pipe!!!!! You absolutely make no since...

[RamsesRibb]

Hmm. How exactly can you lower the density of the machine without reconstructing it from a different material?

[muthey]

Hey sub I remember you saying you were going to open a shop right well I have some advise for you. A friend of mine opened a auto body shop once, he is one of the best body and paint guys I have ever seen but he is way to picky he lost his shop because of it. farmers would bring in work trucks they just wanted a quick coat of paint on and he'd start doing body work to make the whole thing perfect again, which is fine but they wouldn't pay for it because it's not what they asked for. So what I am getting at is if you want a shop great, but give the customer what they ask for and share you philosophies with a few of your more serious customers who are actually looking for that special something. Watching your thread I can see you are a perfectionist in a way about building this. I would hate to hear you say you opened a shop and six months or what ever down the road you'd closed it back up because you lost too much money in doing it. You may be a genius but a genius who owns a shop 95% of the time needs to keep that genius thought out of his business in order to make money.

[bcredneck]

the performance benefits of lowering wieght and density is there for uncomputable. Hence the thousand uses a riders unput has to the building of a machine. And the importance of keeping weight down. Then I haven't even brought up the power and weight ratio yet. acceleration is NOT affected by density thou. Power to weight ratio yields a linear performance gain, and that is very easily computed.

Weight loss is entirely measurable. Density is not and must be experianced for the fullest experiance of it.
density has nothing to do with what you think your talking about how close the molicules of the steel and aluminum are on your trike have nothing to do with making your trike handle better
and how do you think your going to turn on a dime with a live axle with a motor right in front and no weight on the front tire you wont be able to take weight from the motor or axle and your adding a gas tank back there
by the way i try not to be a dick but its hard for me to belive you know what you are talking about after you say your going to no footer stoppie down a hill and you can aparantly bounce off trees with a 125 with unequaled torque and center steering and driven every thing cool you could think off i may have built some crap but i can admit that i made misakes and im not the best at what i do but you trow money at a old trike and try to pretend you know every thing the people reading this form are not stupid

[just ben]

i hear you.
About the head tube, i might have to make one.... i won't know untill it gets here really. the 250r triples are aluminum, would be nice to have an aluminum headtube aswellI was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and read your whole thread. however I made it as far as this post and concluded that the density of your ignorance far exceeds the density of your knowledge.

[fabiodriven]

About the head tube, i might have to make one.... i won't know untill it gets here really. the 250r triples are aluminum, would be nice to have an aluminum headtube aswell.

:lol::lol::lol: You are serious about that, aren't you? :lol::lol::lol:


Hey sub You may be a genius

Come again?


I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and read your whole thread. however I made it as far as this post and concluded that the density of your ignorance far exceeds the density of your knowledge.

Thank you for pointing that out. I needed a good laugh!

[Lil Earl]

i dont care what you guys say, i am very interseted to see the outcome

[RamsesRibb]

i dont care what you guys say, i am very interseted to see the outcome
Oh YES!!! I am very interested too

[bcredneck]

Oh YES!!! I am very interested too
ya i cant wait to see him wheelie drop it after he cut the back suports for the frame and cut the head tube off so he could use longer forks and more rake

[Grindin' Gearz]

Longer forks, more rake, and wanting to pull off freestyle mx moves? Please tell me there will be video of this... Lol :)

[bcredneck]

dont forget hes welding in a head tube for thouse forks with a aluminum steering tube ive used crap for parts before but thats realy pushing it

[Grindin' Gearz]

I think there's gonna be some issues with that aluminium head tube mating to a steel frame, I would buy plenty of scrap aluminium and steel pieces and practice, practice, test, and practice more, the art of welding dissimilar metals, but that's just my .02 as a machinist.

[just ben]

I think there's gonna be some issues with that aluminium head tube mating to a steel frame, I would buy plenty of scrap aluminium and steel pieces and practice, practice, test, and practice more, the art of welding dissimilar metals, but that's just my .02 as a machinist.kinda the point of my last post in this thread. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!!

[bcredneck]

he was talking about the steering tube that gos bettween the tripples its a thiner tube that takes just as mutch strees ive bent one and mine was almost solid steel on a mx 80

[badass350x]

:wondering"Ok"

[RamsesRibb]

When OEM's use aluminum they use much thicker pieces because aluminum is not as dense and therefore more prone to breaking than steel. For improving strength I would use chromoly or just probably leave it be (steering area). I would drill holes in less stressed areas to lighten the bike.

[Sublunacy]

Like water off a ducks back.
Big words wow, All these negative replys make me giggle because they are not quantifiable. I.e. there is no function in them. Except those complaining about spell check. Gravity does exist. Making a light 3 wheeler is not habitual of a crack user. I wonder if maybe more critisism should start going the other way? I can say Blah... is that all you have planned? Is that as good as it gets?

Anyway I appreciate the concern about taking on to much, bussiness or otherwise. Im in school for small engines now and im taking an accounting course after that. Thanks and if anyone wants to discuss business in any manner Im sure my Familly allready has one thanks anyway. Nobody in my extended familly works for someone else. All Self employed bussiness owners. Me? I have my head in the clouds just where it belongs.

Now everyone please shut up so I can think. Gratuity's allways welcome.


I can appreciate