Tecate with HID and LED's

[Xpress]

Just thought I would share my Tecate with you guys, but this time it has a 55W HID and red LED's.

So here it is with the sun turned on:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6119/mg8883.jpg

And when the sun goes down:

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4895/mg9418.jpg

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1015/mg9422.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7250/mg8226p.jpg

Needless to say, I won't have issues seeing at night. Thanks for lookin! :Bounce

[ceaserthethird]

Dam that's awesome, Let's see some details on harness & wires set up.

[dcreel]

Kudos, you did a great job on that..

[fabiodriven]

I wouldn't have guessed a T3 would run an HID with the huge voltage jumps it makes. Any tricks involved?

[Xpress]

Thanks guys. I'll try and get a diagram up of the harness if you guys want. It's not that difficult to make, just takes time and patience to figure things out.

fabiodriven: No tricks, right now it's just a lot of guesswork based off of the math. My main concern is that the HID might suck too much current for the lighting coil to keep the battery charged. If that is the case, then I will have to drop to a 35 watt HID. Will post the results as soon as my battery comes in. Last nights blackout delayed my shipment until the middle of next week.

I also want to try the system out with a 35w HID and the stock 55w lighting coil to see if it puts out enough to handle it, so upgrading to a Ricky Stator 65w coil won't be necessary.

[riverrat]

Don't forget to calculate the rear light and LED's. It adds up, depending how powerful your LED's are.

[Xpress]

^Actually, glad you mentioned the tail light.

The way I have the bike wired up is with 11 lights. That's the headlight and 10 red LED's. There is 2 strings of LED's that are paralleled together. Each of the lights in each string is series'd together, so 5 LED's per string. 3 of the LED's on one string are inside of the tail light. It's actually a bit brighter than the stock 12V 5W light bulb, for just 3 LED's. I didn't make a fancy mount, I just soldered the LED prongs to the light bulb base, I'll have to pull it apart to get a pic. Not worried about the solder breaking off, and even if it does, I wired the wiring harness directly to the LED's so nothing goes through the original bulb base. Another thing, it's just a 200X light/bracket zip tied to the frame :lol:

It will work for now. The math says I will be around 4.3 amps with all of the lights working at 13.6 volts, and the coil at 13.6 volts should be capable of putting out up to 4.7 amps. It's all going to be really close, so I'm hoping the math is close enough to the real world current draws.

[Xpress]

I thought I would put up a list of parts that I used for anyone who is curious as to what I have used sofar:

-1x DDM tuning 55 watt Motorcycle HID Kit (http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-Motorcycle-HID-Kit)

-10x 5mm Red 120* Beam Pattern LED's (http://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/component-leds/5mm-red-led-120-degree-viewing-angle-flat-tipped-1200-mcd/279/1206/)

1x TrailTech Universal Voltage Regulator Rectifier (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=88&navTitle=ATV+Parts&webCatId=24&keyword=voltage+regulator+rectifier&prodFamilyId=27240)

1x Ricky Stator 65 watt Tecate lighting coil (http://www.rickystator.com/catalog/kawasaki-tecate-watt-lighting-coil-p-161.html)

1x 12V 5AH Sealed battery (http://www.amazon.com/PowerStar-12V-5-0AH-SLA-Battery/dp/B004AVZ1YA/ref=sr_1_33?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1315618114&sr=1-33)

[TecateDan]

I've been interested in doing this for a while and will be veryu interested to see if the battery will stay charged

[riverrat]

How many watts are the LEDs?

[Xpress]

I'm sure with the right setup that the battery will stay charged- I'm using a pretty power hungry headlight.

My friend suggested that I try vision X Solstice LED's, so sometime in the future I might get some of them to try. I could run 2 spot and 2 flood lights and still be less than the 55w HID.

riverrat: Not sure, I think they're 80 milli-watts, so 0.08 watts a piece.

[riverrat]

Ok that's really low. I have quite a bit of knowledge on LED's as I use them on my night flying planes. They have some really brite ones out there that can draw 3watts or more, and that would add up quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydbTz-23PYU

[Headsup]

Yea i wanted to put some LED's on mine, Idk Now seeing that HID Headlight. I want that instead.. Nice thanks!

[Xpress]

Ok that's really low. I have quite a bit of knowledge on LED's as I use them on my night flying planes. They have some really brite ones out there that can draw 3watts or more, and that would add up quick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydbTz-23PYU

Neat. I am using DW Foamies' Flite Lights on my airplanes. Total power consumption is 0.5 amps, and they're powered off of my flight packs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DfrpVfSXIc&feature=related

I've got a buttload of LED's on the way to try on something bigger.

[riverrat]

Is that you flying? If so you are pretty good, actually very good. My3-D stuff is rusty as I haven't flown much the last 3 years. Going to the NEAT fair next weekend where we have the night time balloon popping contest. That is what my Pheonix 100 with Demension engineering lights is for. I don't remember all the specifics because I set it up a few years back, but I think I draw close to 1amp. I use a separate BEC to drive the lights, off my flight pack. I purpose built that plane to compete in the contest. There can be as many as 30 planes trying to pop one balloon at times, and my plane can take the beating. Last year I had like 5 mid-airs, and a few encounters with the balloon string, and she kept right on flying.
There are some pretty intense LED's you can get off ebay for cheap. I was thinking of tricking out my trike with LED's for headlights, and under the plastic. was going to hide the LED's in the number plate.

[Xpress]

Is that you flying? If so you are pretty good, actually very good. My3-D stuff is rusty as I haven't flown much the last 3 years. Going to the NEAT fair next weekend where we have the night time balloon popping contest. That is what my Pheonix 100 with Demension engineering lights is for. I don't remember all the specifics because I set it up a few years back, but I think I draw close to 1amp. I use a separate BEC to drive the lights, off my flight pack. I purpose built that plane to compete in the contest. There can be as many as 30 planes trying to pop one balloon at times, and my plane can take the beating. Last year I had like 5 mid-airs, and a few encounters with the balloon string, and she kept right on flying.

Yes that is me flying. That airplane didn't last long. Some crazy guy around here was walking his dog in the school, and came up to me to talk about it. He let his dog off the leash, who then immediately lunged for my airplane, destroying it.. If I couldn't get them for cheap then it would have been an entirely different situation (the guy was also trying to get me to let his daughter fly it, because she is "good at the video games" :crazy: ).

Hop onto RC Groups every once in a while, tons of info on everything radio control.


There are some pretty intense LED's you can get off ebay for cheap. I was thinking of tricking out my trike with LED's for headlights, and under the plastic. was going to hide the LED's in the number plate.

I was looking at some of the feeBay specials too, but the specs don't seem all that great. I have personal experience with the Vision X lights so that's why I am partial to them.

[atc007]

Very cool plane xpress! What's a setup like that run,lights and all,the way it sits? Thanx!

[Afrothunderkat]

wow... this is wicked....

only if it was green!

[Xpress]

^It's in the plans! I wanted a color to match the fenders, so it will be red for now. If I ever stumble across another set of green fenders, or another group buy comes around, I'm going green.


Very cool plane xpress! What's a setup like that run,lights and all,the way it sits? Thanx!

It's a DW Foamies Flite Light kit:

http://www.dwfoamies.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=42&flypage=vmj_ritz.tpl&product_id=33&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=343

It seems expensive, but when you have a problem, the customer support Mike offers is second to none. He fully backs and supports every product he offers, so it's worth it alone.

[Xpress]

Excuse the crudity of this diagram, but it shows how everything is wired up basically.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8058/wiringharness.jpg

So it's 2 strand of 5 RED LED's, each strand is wired in series then both strands are paralleled together into the HID lines. Installed a switch between the positive lead before the lights and then plugged it into the battery. Like I said it's not that difficult to do but it is time consuming because of all of the soldering.

[KASEY]

so why not use these???? already 12 volts,, 50 led's ,,waterproof,, simple to mount and CHEAP!!!

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC00029-1.jpg

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n592/KASEYII/DSC09994.jpg

[Xpress]

^I was thinking of buying LED strips, but I wanted to try it with the individual bulbs first.

Don't ask me why, I have no idea why I think of the more complex routes first :lol: Where did you get those? What current do they draw?

EDIT: now I remember. Those bulbs cost me $7 shipped to my door. I bought some of the 5mm Piranha bulbs (Red, Green, Yellow, and blue, 32 of them total) to try out as well, $16 to my door.

[TecateDan]

Any update on how the battery worked with the 55W Hid and the battey. Did it stay charged or did you have to go to a 35w setup