1985 Honda 200x kick stater question

[curtis slawson]

so i bought a 200x kickstart was skipping when i would kick it over to start it. kick start return's perfect.

so i tore the motor apart today to find there nothing worng with the return spring or the rachet gear spring works good to.

when i split the crank case and looked at the kicker stuff. Looked like the gear rachet wasn't siting fulley on the gear rachet bolt on the back of the crank case would this cause it not to work cus all the kick starter gear's etc... looks in good working shape


the gear rachet bolt wasnt all the way siting on the on the gear rachet it was on the gear rachet still but not sitting where it should be

[tri again]

Sorta hard to picture for me but the 'search' key has been working great lately
and the manuals are free in the 'world class help' section.

I DO know there is tons of info about x kickers on here.
Looks like said 'skipping'. I thought it said slipping.

Something that sounds like 'one way clutch' comes to mind.
...so you push down as if to start it and it doesn't really want to grab predictably every time?
If I'm hearing you right.

I'd hit
'x kick start', with the search key and see what happens.

If it's a positioning error, lord knows who was in there doing what and lost a spacer or thrust washer.

bikebandit.com has some exploded diagrams of almost everything so maybe you can get an idea if everything is actually in there.

[shortline10]

When the kicker assembly is all together in the cases it will sit straight so thats not the issue . The problem is the smaller spring that meshes the ratchet gears together is to weak . The correct fix is to buy the upgraded spring but its not avalible anymore so your next option is to back cut the ratchet teeth so they grab better and stretch the spring out so their is more tension on the ratchet set .







so i bought a 200x kickstart was skipping when i would kick it over to start it. kick start return's perfect.

so i tore the motor apart today to find there nothing worng with the return spring or the rachet gear spring works good to.

when i split the crank case and looked at the kicker stuff. Looked like the gear rachet wasn't siting fulley on the gear rachet bolt on the back of the crank case would this cause it not to work cus all the kick starter gear's etc... looks in good working shape


the gear rachet bolt wasnt all the way siting on the on the gear rachet it was on the gear rachet still but not sitting where it should be

[curtis slawson]

so i took some picutres to show you how it looked

this is how the gear rachet bolt was siting on the gear rachet gear wassnt sitting fully on the grove where it should be
http://i52.tinypic.com/dq3n5u.jpg

and wear an tear cus it wassnt sitting right.
http://i55.tinypic.com/23lb29g.jpg

[shortline10]

I dont see any wear ? That grove in the case was machiened by honda to accept the larger 84/85 kicker gear .

[curtis slawson]

so if i replace the gear rachet spring and the gears it should all be good then

[rdlsz24]

I would seriously consider cutting back the teeth now while you have it apart. It would be heartbraking if you replaced a couple parts and put it back together only to have it still slip.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?57972-What-makes-200x-kick-starters-slip-Several-soloutions-inside!

Rob

[curtis slawson]

I would seriously consider cutting back the teeth now while you have it apart. It would be heartbraking if you replaced a couple parts and put it back together only to have it still slip.

http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?57972-What-makes-200x-kick-starters-slip-Several-soloutions-inside!

Rob

on the progress of doing it right now lol thanks Rob