Vealmonkeys 350X frame with gussets.....

[Dirtcrasher]

Got some welding done today for VM. Ran out of my Argon mix, hope to get more in the next couple days.

Anyhow, here are some shots of the progress;

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1004.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1009.jpg

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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1008.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1011.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1012.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1013.jpg

It's an 86 frame but must be an early one because the left frame half wrap is not there. I have to chop off the mount and add one.

I'll post some pics of that soon.....

[yooperman]

looks awsome DC top quality work once again coming out of that shop of yours.

[Chazz of Blades]

Um, Veal, thats some serious reinforcing right there. What exactly do you have in mind for it?

[RubberSalt]

Sure, rub it in my face after seeing my pipe, i see how it is lol.

Imma take a guess.. that uhh.. He's gonna put a old school 750 triple 2 stroke in it :)

Not right? damn i guessed atleast. Banshee motor? :)

[Dirtcrasher]

I use to just do a few gussets, which is fine to hold the flex back; I've doubled them along with adding to some of the OEM welds. Now that I've put on a linkage rear suspension to my own 350X, I've added allot more gusseting to any frame I work on. It really only adds a couple pounds but a whole lot more strength and less flex.

It's allot of work from the fabrication to the paint removal to the welding as best as I can. Having a good 230V mig welder helps quite a bit!

VM can comment on the powerplant he's installing if he wishes :D I've had his frame awhile and just wanted to show some progress, finally......

[Vealmonkey]

Did somebody mention my name? LOL That's looking real nice DC. Well worth the wait. Looking Beefy. It's going to need it. The powerplant is staying honda, believe it or not, but it's going to be alot of mix and match. Thanks in total to SWIGIN for that. Well, I guess since this frame has popped up, may as well go public. I lucked into getting the pieces for the Ascott 500/350x build from Wayne/ SWIGIN. So, in the meantime I got this frame and another, which is getting redone for my regular 350x. Also thanks to Jasonatc250r for the other 350x frame and a nice 350x engine which is getting redone to to house the Ascott 500 head and bits and the stroked 350x crank. It took awhile to find some of the 350x internals, but thanks to Petesatc and another member who I can't recall right now, sorry, that they hooked me up with the internal parts that are discontinued from Honda. So the crank was heading off to be stroked with all the new Honda parts and just waiting for that to come back. I've accumulated a ton of honda seals, bearings and all kinds of other stuff for the rebuild as well. I keep looking for a genuine Honda lower 350x gasket set, but no luck. I think the cases still need to be bored for the much larger sleeve and not sure if the new sleeve is in the cylinder yet, but it's coming together. I have a durablue +2 swinger I was going to use on the other frame, but I think I will use the stock swinger on that and use the durablue on this frame, but it may need a longer swinger still. I've been called several things, mostly on the lines of insane, for wanting to put this engine in a trike, but, what the heck, right? LOL It should be nuts. But it will be the answer to a long time question of the Ascott 500/ 350x feasability. So, it's been on and off and kind of slow coming. I thank Wayne and Jason and Bruce and everyone else for their patience. It only took me 2 or 3 frames to find another good one after my first frame from Jason. And I've been patiently watching DC's build of the 450r/250r/350x trike. Sadly, moneys a little tight right now as I have just way too many projects going at once, as I had fantasies of 450r/250r parts and mods, but it's just not possible right now. So this frame will have to do for now. Once I get some other things done, who knows. So cross your fingers for me to get this all going and see where it ends up.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?78141-ascott-500-head-swap-onto-a-350x....-with-pics&highlight=
You can reference this link for more info about the Ascott 500 Head mod. Don't think for a moment that this is an easy mod. It was very time consuming for Wayne to do all this. At one time this was thought to be a bolt on, but it's far from it. Thanks Wayne, and everyone else too for help making all this possible.

[aldochina]

great welds! sounds like a killer build!

[bobotech]

Awesome welding.

I so wish i could weld like that. Maybe someday.



Imma take a guess.. that uhh.. He's gonna put a old school 750 triple 2 stroke in it :)



LOL, Suzuki, right? I was given a 75 Suzuki 550GT about a week ago. Sat for 30+ years outside. I'm hoping to have it running in the next week. Rebuilt the carbs, petcock, cleaned the points/etc, unfroze the engine, fixed wiring. can't wait to hear it fire up.

[RubberSalt]

Kawisaki has an aircooled version, Suzuki was a water cooled :)

I like the idea of the 500x setup for it. I bet it's a torque monster when it's done!.

[R-tifacts]

looking good, ill be keeping an eye on this build for sure, keep us updated along the way.

[Dirtcrasher]

Awesome welding.

I so wish i could weld like that. Maybe someday.


Honestly, most of it is a good mig welder with shielding gas, good prep of the 2 surfaces and some technique. When you have poor or rusty metal, you can't keep your heat high and have to move much faster. This is an excellent frame with new hot rolled plating.....

[atc007]

Good stuff indeed! Rubber,you'll be welding just like him with a good setup. Just a matter of time. Really nice work DC!!

[Dirtcrasher]

Finished today aside from a skidplate bolt snapped off in the frame and whatever else you want Pat.....

Left side couldn't be any stronger:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1019.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1020.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1014.jpg

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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh220/Dirtcrasher/101_1021.jpg

[jason85atc250r]

Vealmonkey just letting you know those Durablue swingers are not that strong. I broke one trial riding on my 85atc250r about 10 years ago.

[Bryan Raffa]

Wheres the BEEF?:naughty:

[Vealmonkey]

Steve, Do you think I need any reinforcing around the neck? Just thinking ahead for future mods.
Jason, don't tell me this. Well, it figures. I might have to see what Mike at HRE can do about a nice swingarm if I can get the funding back on track. Is that the 250r that you raced sometimes? I know you ride hard. I don't ride that hard anymore. Last time I rode hard, I bent an axle on my 350x by landing wrong on one rear tire. Luckily it wasn't any worse than that.
Raffa, cut it out you Cobber! LOL

[BigRed_Ryno]

Get the slug pellets out.... jk jk, looks a great job you've done there! Ill agree with ya a lot of it is in the preperation, it doesnt take much old paint in the arc to make it turn like an Aero bar. You gotta know what you're doing to get good results from 230v machines, We got blokes at work that strugle to lay a weld like that with 3phase (415v) machines. That frame sure looks like it'll be able to take what ever you can throw at it now B)

[Vealmonkey]

I almost forgot. The other cool thing about this frame is that it came with a title!

[Dirtcrasher]

I almost forgot too, it's been hanging on my fridge for months :lol: That title is GOLD!

I'll have to give you a buzz, or call me Pat. I'll be around tonite and all weekend; If I miss the call, I'll call you back......

[Vealmonkey]

Steve, I won't be able to call you tonight as I'm at work as usual. I should be able to call you tomorrow though. I have to get a break from this place. They wanted me to work 12 hours tomorrow too, but I shared that with a fellow co-worker who just finished 6 days of vacation and is hungry for some OT, thank goodness. LOL

[2Tim215]

Hoping for some more photos Steve as to where this is at!

[Dirtcrasher]

I'm hoping it's at Pats house........ :D

[Vealmonkey]

It's here Steve. I tried calling you and left a message.

[atc350xer]

Dunno if it's needed, but there's an Ascot motor at my local scrapyard, Jason's seen it... I'd be happy to acquire it if necessary...

[Vealmonkey]

The offer is greatly appreciated, Thank You. Are you going to get an engine built? About the only parts you use are in the head actually. Everything else is 350x, well except for the ascott sleeve and the wiseco piston. The Ascott parts that I needed , I have. I'm just in the process of getting alot of other things done thanks to SWIGIN-Wayne and everyone else that has helped out so far. Wayne says that he would mod another head for a price.

[atc007]

I have an Ascot here,I would deal on,it ran to where it sits,,however,,that was along time ago!