just picked up a 81' 180

[MudHogz]

http://img96.imageshack.us/g/atc3d.jpg/ picked this baby up today with a extra xr180 engine? i think :wondering now all i need is a pullstart witch my buddy has but hes out of town so ill be driving to get it on friday :lol:trailpro also when it runs there is a slight ticking in the valves buddy said this is "normal" any chimes for this?

[MudHogz]

also it has to be bump started atm it was easy when buddy was here but now trying this all alone seems immpossible, i also heard u can start it by wrapping a rope around the rotor, to fake a pull start however that doesnt seem to be working well i just keep smashing my trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotr ailpro fingers on the gas tank LOL im pretty sure im pulling the rite way also im pulling counter clockwise(so it spins forward)

[three_wheelin45]

Its suppose to go Clock wise. Spining it clock wise

[RubberSalt]

That looks to be a 185s.

Adjust those valves, I haven't messed with that engine yet, but whenever i get a new toy, i usualy run through it pretty well, as i don't want a catastrophe.
Oil,Valve adjustment, loose screws, Clean air filter, clean carb, make sure filter in fuel line is clean, proper air pressure in tires, change other fluids if any, lubricate the chain with a dry lube(dirt sticks to wet lube), make sure chain is adjusted properly, ect.

A couple hours of time can save a world of headaches and $$$

Also, i beleive that engine has a compression release, that would make it a ton easier to start if it did. I never used the compression release on my 200m until today - I couldn't beleive the difference lol.
The xr185 engine, I haven't played with that either, but it's probably a direct bolt in, but the kicker, unless it kicks forward, will more than likely hit the fender/ wheel. You should be able to pull the cam and carb off the xr and stick it on the 185s

[MudHogz]

alright so im gonna try push starting with the decompression on, i also have someone to help today LOL, also i was told valve adjustment is .0003? and is it the same tool a atv uses to adjust i use to have a arctic cat 300 and it used a square like tool, im cleaning the carb, gas lines for sure, i also want to run a snorkel and was wondering what size pvc to use so i dont have to re jet

[MonroeMike]

Valve clearance is 0.05 mm (0.002 in)

Check pages 85-86 for the how to.
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?126290-ATC185-200-Service-Data

[MudHogz]

got it started today, ran it for about 3mins then it sputtered and died, took off the carb, and oh boy was that dirty, gunk in the bowl small jet was clogged to trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro main jet not so bad, so i put the jets in some gas and shook it up, put the bowl in gas, and also the rest of the carb gonna let it sit for about 4hrs+ then use a twist tie to poke thru the jets, slap it on and hopefully its running good again !

[RubberSalt]

Don't use a twist tie, the metal wire WILL damage the passages in the carb. Just blow through them, or run a liquid through them.

The twist tie idea comes from experience

[MudHogz]

so i just got a pullstart, but the bad news is the middle bar that holds it all on with the clip is mushroomed, is there anyway to fix this :( ill take a few pics later

[MudHogz]

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circled in red is what is mushroomed, and wont hold the clip

[MudHogz]

so it turned out the pullstart was fine cause he had another one! just no rope so we putt some other rope in and cleaned the carb out real good put everything back on and she fired up 3rd pull and boy oh boy she sounds 10000x better now and man does this little machine have power i tried a lil wheelie and it just flipped :O man im in love with it lol

[MudHogz]

also it doesnt smoke when started, but when reved past half way it has ALLLLLLLLLOT OF WHITE SMOKE almost looks 2 stroke lol is this burnt rings? its been sitting for 1 year so yeah gonna change oil tomorrow i think there may be water in there

[RubberSalt]

That is the sound of bad rings or valve guides, most likely rings. Change the oil, make sure you use a motorcycle oil. Regular motor oil is NOT designed for wet clutches, make sure the screen is clean before you put it together. You'll see the screen when you change the oil.