bw80 to atc70 conversion.

[KASEY]

i finally had a little time to convert this bw 80 front suspension to fit a atc70,, i added a 70 tire so it wouldn't be so tall and still look more oem,,, i just won another bw front off ebay without a tire so i think i will do one with the 10" original tire too,, oh yeah i built some 2.5" bar risers for it too,,,

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[barrett8]

post some pics with them mounted

[motoman1012002]

this is a good idea

[honda4h]

do the forks bolt on? or is there more to it?

[bcredneck]

is that 70 going to have rear suspention to

[KASEY]

THE STEERING STEMS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT SIZE AND LENGTH. i had to remove the old stem and weld the 70 stem in the lower triple clamp. the front hub is atc and the sleeves had to be cut down ,, i don't think a stock tire will fit inbetween the forks , the tire i have is a little narrower than stock,, i am going to builkd a complete full suspension rolling chassis that will be for sale when its done..

[scottyms]

I've been contemplating this same swap... i plan to cut the head tube out of the bw frame and put it on the 70 chasis, i figure its got to get stretched a few inches anyway... i'll be keeping up on this one...

scotty

[KASEY]

the problem with swapping the head tube,, its alot shorter than an ATC .. then the gastank comes into play for top and bottom clearance . thats why A+ stayed with an atc neck to avoid that problem,, now if you strech the frame out you might be able to get away with it,

[motoman1012002]

kasey i want dibs on this frame when it comes up for sale

[KASEY]

lol!!!!! i supose you want to pick all the colors and accessories too??? :-)

[big specht]

I've had the parts laying around for along time to do this swap but never got around to doing:rolleyes: Keep us posted inqiring mind want to know

[motoman1012002]

black lots of black and a turbo would b a nice touch ape hanger's haha goin to look good

[KASEY]

since there is a little interest i will profile this build up. i picked up a beater pitbike, i am going to use the frame for this one, ita a typical chinese pitbike, nothing special, this won't be mine . it probably will end up in the kids garage when its done ,, this won't be an all out build either, it will be a more budget type build,, here are a few starting picts,, notice the totally different steering head angles? i will cut the neck off the pitbike frame and strech it 2 inches,, i will cut all the mounts and brackets off to while i am at it. since i already have a 70 neck cut off it will be easy to get it setup too,,, by the way i have a very nice motor out of the pit bike its only 50cc's but it runs great all the crap off the pit bike is for sale CHEAP,,,
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[motoman1012002]

this is neat

[Modding_out]

Kasey: I'm interested in the pit bike parts, I noticed on your profile you don't receive pm's so if you could email me pictures (easier than making a list) and kill two birds with one stone that'd be great. elliotrepko13@hotmail.com <--- and fyi noo, I not 13y old:lol:

[KASEY]

man to nj the shipping is going to kill you,, no pit bikes there? i would give you everything off the bike for $100 and the shipping would probably be $80

[KASEY]

these pit bike frames are real thin,,, i was suprised how thin this one was . so i think this one will be a little kids bike... i sleeved the frame 12 inches to help and will build some neck gussets when the motor is in so i don't have clearance issues. so the frame is streched +2.5 most of the junk is cut off. now i will get started on the swingarm,

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[motoman1012002]

when you gonna build me one haha

[Modding_out]

We got all the yuppies in jersey who think they shart out jewel encrusted turds.... it's hard to find pit bike parts bikes for some reason. I wanna deck out/update my Rupp Hustler frame.....already got a re worked 5hp flatty(about 10hp) to go in + a new torque converter, she'll be a a lot to handle when she's done.

Sorry that's real off topic, that little 70 will be a beaut when your done with 'er :naughty:

[KASEY]

when you gonna build me one haha

all you need is a downpayment and a spec sheet....

[motoman1012002]

this gonna be neat allways wanted a 70

[KASEY]

well here is the donor frame,, the story i got was dad was going to cut it up and the kids talked him out of it,,, to bad nobody told dad to put down the welder!!!! so i ended up with a nice piece to add to the end of my swingarm,,, going to leave the stock brakes for simplicity and keeping the budget in mind,,,

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[atc350xer]

I hear bolts make a good filler :lol:
I like what you're doing... definitely be watching this one. Mine is going to have a 185 carrier/brakes and axle... just a bit wider than stock :naughty:
If I had a late model 110, I woulda went that route, but sometimes you gotta use whatcha got.

[KASEY]

i like to stay light.. if you use big parts might as well build a big bike...

[motoman1012002]

if you think that was a bad weld job you outta see some of these boys welds down by the mississippi river i under stand the meanin of red neck

[KASEY]

well bad welding and all i got the swingarm built this morning,, i used the original shock off my A+ frame. its sprung pretty light for a smaller than me rider .. next i will add all the tabs and brackets for all the goodies to hang off of. mount the motor so i can see what i will do for gas tank and fenders..
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[jays375]

Have you ever used Hym joints like that before?Since it is a bigger machine,what about a bigger tank?Like maybe a 1st generation 200x tank.Then you could have tank scoops.Just thinking it would fit the gap even maybe the seat also.Just my two cents.

[KASEY]

nope! 70 all the way.. a 200x tank would be HUGE ... i wanted to be able to adjust the chain and i hate those spring skateboard wheel tensioners... so i went this way... and yes i have seen them used before ..

[oldtime3wheeler]

I want that set-up Kasey!

[KASEY]

All it takes is $$$$ :-)

[jays375]

Okay my dumb on the tank idea.Just looks like a big area for a 70 tank to fill.Since this is low buck,will the motor be low buck also?

[KASEY]

we will say no on the low buck motor,,,

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[KASEY]

WELL IT IS LOOKING MORE LIKE A TRIKE,,,,

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[Jason125m]

Looking great kasey!

[hillbilly 200x]

I kinda want to get an a pit bike now and chop it up to make a trike now. Its coming along great tho, keep up the good work.

[Brockey]

Kasey it's looking like a masterpiece, just like every other build of yours. Love it. Wish I had the parts and know how.

[KASEY]

HERE IS A LITTLE MORE WORK.. changed my mind on the motor and pipe,, but it is getting closer to a runner... check out the old school footpegs,,,,

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[Brockey]

Looking good. Nice pegs forsure.

[KASEY]

got the fenders mounted ,,, seat and get the motor running and i will be able to ride it....

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[motoman1012002]

what is the front fender off of you use them all the time looks good

[AtcFactoryRacer]

Wow it looks amazing, what front fender are you running?

[Bryan Raffa]

why the change in motor?

[KASEY]

I am in the process of having these front fenders made .... Maybe a week away...

[Brockey]

Perfect. Let us know when you get them made.

[AtcFactoryRacer]

Thats awesome!!! i want a front fender like that! you should have enough made where you can share the wealth with us... It would be cool to make a sportier low pro rear fender that looks like a mini 250r fender with the black number plates.

[KASEY]

you mean like these mini 81 replicas?????

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[AtcFactoryRacer]

Yeah those rear fenders are sweet, i like the lower profile seat too... Man, Kasey you are like the Chip Foose of three wheelers!! what will you come up with next? Custom metal gas tanks? Custom machined wheels? LoL

[motoman1012002]

i would be down for a set of thoes fender sets cool and differnt

[KASEY]

well i think i have finally got all my brain back,,, so today i worked on the 70 for a while.. did the final install on the swingarm, finished the brakes got the motor finished and installed all i have left is the axle.getting a +4 waiting on the hubs , and get the chain and sliders figured out. and build a new pipe ... them i can do some TESTING ...

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[gomer202]

Looks sweet would love to make one like that!

[motoman1012002]

this is goin to be another wild 70 you gonna have to post up a vid riding this one when its done

[thestud25]

I am glad that you put the larger motor back in. The 70 motor looked way too small in it. Looks great!

[KASEY]

the reason for the big motor,.. not going to sell the roller after all,,,,, i have another one in the works that might be for sale...

[motoman1012002]

thats a mini the red would look good

[Xowner]

GET THOSE YAMAHA STICKERS off it! PLEASE!!!!

[motoman1012002]

so my main question thoes drum brakes goin to do well or would you of rather have disc on the back

[KASEY]

i might do a dics someday... not like i haven't done that before... here is the pipe,,, i did a sectional pipe kinda kool... and i ran down to the walmart parking lot and swiped the muffler off some kids honda civic.,....

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[ATCeeya]

that thing is SIIICK! Kasey you do some amazing work

[KASEY]

the SICKNESS will start with the finish work,,, shiney wheels, old school tires , bright colors . loud pipe craziness!!!

[Brockey]

Watching carefully for the finish product..

[bucko]

Looks like it will be a lot of fun when finnished

[atc007]

He never disappoints does he!! Lovin that pipe Kasey!!

[KASEY]

WELL I FIRED IT UP..... might not be to loud,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WX9GIAq4ao

[motoman1012002]

that is sweet

[KASEY]

i got a couple of more pieces to the 70 puzzle yesterday,,, tires and axle so i mounted them up and threw the axle in... now i am geting closer to the finishing process,, i need a different shock spring and the front tire and wheel... that will make it a complete runner...

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[motoman1012002]

so who makes the axle for ya

[KASEY]

i have a friend at a machineshop,,, this is my 4th one i have a + 3 and 3 +4's

[bobotech]

Awesome stuff. I so wish I had the knowledge to be able to fab stuff up like that.

[motoman1012002]

so is the axle extended or is the hubs extended

[gomer202]

Looks like the axle was extended to me but I might be wrong

[Brockey]

Axle is extended. Looks awesome too.

[KASEY]

no extended hubs or wheel spacers,,,, +4 axles

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[motoman1012002]

looks good Kasey your inbox is full to

[big specht]

How does those bolt on??? Does it used a shanked nut to tie them into the factory axle???

[KASEY]

those are just the length of the extention,, tha alxe is 4 inches longer than a stock axle ..

[motoman1012002]

see thats what i was wondering so you have to cut up a good axle every time

[mollie8000]

awesome work kasey,can i expect to see this masterpiece at trikefest

[big specht]

Ok I see those are the tube extenders over the axle DA:lol:

[motoman1012002]

its been a couple weeks I bet your were riding this thing is past weekend haha

[KASEY]

taking it to work tomorrow,,, puttin a seat on and doing a shake down run,,,, then teardown to make it pretty,,,,

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[gomer202]

That thing looks awsome I need to build myself one of those

[motoman1012002]

looks good I like it have you rode it around to see whats the motor is like

[motoman1012002]

So how was the shake down run

[fannitti]

how can i put this front end on my 70 stock frame what would i have to do step by step im handy with my hands and tools

[fannitti]

found bw80 front end on ebay but with out lower triple clap and found a 70 steering them with the 70 steering stem bolt up to the bw80 claps and then just slid up the bottom tripple clap on the bw 80 to hold in place? what axel for wheel is needed very interested in this.

[KASEY]

no , no , and no,, to make the bw frontend work, you have to have a stock 70 steering stem,, cut it out of a stock 70 fork, then you have to cut the stem out of the bw lower, them you will have to have a bushung made to fit the bw clamp and the 70 stem,, you will have to set it all up in a frame get it all positioned right and weld the 70 stem into the bw lower,, all the while making it is all straight square and true,,,, good luck.

[fannitti]

dang sound crazy not as easy as i thought

[KASEY]

with skills nothing is difficult...