84 200x wondering what happend?

[Bustos82]

Well I was all excited riding for 30m..... Then it started to slow down then shuts off. Tried to start her back up and it seems like it doesnt have any compression when I kick start her. Can anyone help me out with some advice?

[ATCrider42]

probably a flat tire or something like that? did you do your pre-trip inspection?

[Bustos82]

Yeah no flat tires......did the pre-insp as well.

[bcredneck]

did it smoke like h*!! before it died if it did you may have snaped a ring and check the oil for any metal flakes could also be a bent or stuck valve

[STLTrike]

Do you feel compression with the choke on? Or when your applying gas while kicking?

[Bustos82]

did it smoke like h*!! before it died if it did you may have snaped a ring and check the oil for any metal flakes could also be a bent or stuck valve

no did not smoke or anything but, ima check the oil for metal flakes tho.

[Bustos82]

Do you feel compression with the choke on? Or when your applying gas while kicking?

hmmmm i think so. lol.

[jb2wheels]

Oil pump?
Gas tank vent?

[Bustos82]

Messed with it today and no luck.....

[bcredneck]

if there was no smoke its probley a valve problem 4 strokes always smoke when the pistion or rings go unless you got no oil

[Bustos82]

if there was no smoke its probley a valve problem 4 strokes always smoke when the pistion or rings go unless you got no oil

really hope its not a valve problem...

[Xpress]

Half an hour of hard riding for even a very well maintained air cooled engine is quite a long time of running, without an oil cooler. My thoughts are it overheated, then it shut down, I've had a couple of 200 engines do that on me on hot days. Except you said you could kick it right away, so maybe you have a slipping kicker? Or maybe a valve broke or bent or something from the heat.

Pull the spark plug off and look inside the cylinder while you kick it. Is the piston moving up and down?

[Bustos82]

Half an hour of hard riding for even a very well maintained air cooled engine is quite a long time of running, without an oil cooler. My thoughts are it overheated, then it shut down, I've had a couple of 200 engines do that on me on hot days. Except you said you could kick it right away, so maybe you have a slipping kicker? Or maybe a valve broke or bent or something from the heat.

Pull the spark plug off and look inside the cylinder while you kick it. Is the piston moving up and down?

yeah piston is moving up and down. have spark as well....

[bugler30]

Had on recently that the flywheel spun and was 1/4 turn out of time. Meaning the when the "F" marking on the flywheel was in the view port it was 1/4 turn before or past the correct firing position of the piston thus causing timing to be off. Get the Piston to TDC by looking in the cylinder then check the marking on the flywheel, should be at "T". Explains the low compression because the valve open too soon and is sparking before it is supposed to on the compression stroke.

[riverrat]

Check the torque on your head bolts as well, could have blown a head gasket.

[Bustos82]

yeah ima check that out. thanks for the heads up.

[Bustos82]

Check the torque on your head bolts as well, could have blown a head gasket.

ima check that out as well. just hope its not some thing big. lol!

[bcredneck]

be carefull with the 4 bolts on top the head if there to tight it will clamp your cam berring i had to learn that the hard way

[oscarmayer]

hey coudl be a dirty carb. take bowl off and clean the carb out. clean the slide and everythign and then reassemble.

BTW, did you check fuel levels? (never done that before.... .me whistles)

[Bustos82]

thanks for all the good info out there guys.... getting to it after work today. lol. hope i could get her up in running...