185 S for SUSPENSION PROJECT Update 8-5-2011( DONE PICS ; )

[ametzker]

THIS IS MY WIFES 81'. It has the aftermarket front triple tree setup and I am adding rear suspension useing a yz 80 parts bike. The engine will also be mildly built so keep watching and let me know what you think or if you have questions. This was all done today 2-25-2011
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After some muratic acid / dollar tree orange cleaner mix the engine looks a lot better.

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Finally got it all apart and the bearings were ridiculous. Now time to move onto making to making a swingarm.


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This bike is a 1985 YZ 80 I am using the forks and the swingarm bits time cut it up.


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I am not using the linkage assembly so I flipped the swingarm upside down to get a shock mount on top.

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I had to cut a couple lines in the middle of the swingarm on both sides so I could bend the swingarm in a half inch to line it up.

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Well I will still weld in some bracing top, bottom and cross bracing but thats it for today. Let me know what you think.

[ametzker]

Good recomendation for a rear shock. I have one of these FOX Air shox for a modern buggy in a smaller size 5.5 inches of travel. I could revalve it to make it more cush I guess. Anyone use these before?http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/view.just.image/src=/ecom/images/product/138.137.600x400.Fox_Racing_2.0_Air_Shock.jpghttp://i38.tinypic.com/2qsqi3m.jpg

[ametzker]

Forget that I put the shock up under it and it was way to long. Oh well do think a blaster shock would be good enough? My wife only weighs 110 lbs.

[ametzker]

Wow 115 views and not one opinion. I guess I am building the wrong trike. Someone say that sucks ass or something. I thought it was neat. lol

[200XMichigan]

Well I think it looks pretty awesome. What mix of muratic acid did you use to clean the engine? It will be a hell of a fun trike when you're done.

[Vealmonkey]

I think no one is offering an opinion since no one has a suspension 185s quite like yours. So no one has much to contribute. We're all just watching and waiting to see how it turns out.

[shortline10]

Yep were all watching !!! Keep up the good work . :beer

[RapidRick]

I've had a couple of suspended 185s trikes and they typically keep the support that you have cut out. IMHO that should have been left in.

I've been watching and this is a unique project like Vealmonkey states. I'll humbly offer you a swinger built by Nicholson that you may copy and send back if you ultimately choose not to continue with this build. With that said my comments are to encourage you not to discourage you.

[ametzker]

Rapid Rick the support you were talking about that I cut out, Haha yeah I figured that out too. I assume the part you were talking about was the rear brace that holds the engine mount. I don't have the pic up yet but I cut the brace out from the rest of the swingarm and added it back in. Good catch man.

[ametzker]

200xMichigan I used about 1/4-1/3 Acid to water/orange cleaner mix. I also had to do it several times due to how bad the engine was corroded. The pics really don't do it justice. I sprayed the solution on and waited 3-4 minutes and then rinsed it off. Rinse and repeat.

[ametzker]

I just ordered a laundry list of parts including these 400ex hubs that are 3.5 inches wider than the stock 400's. So I was thinking that should be about 5 inches wider that the stock 185.
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Also got a killer deal on some Maxxis mud bug tires only $40 a piecse new from Rockymountainatv.
http://www.webtiredealers.com/tiresunlimited/images/Maxxis%20tires/Mud%20Bug.jpg

[thestud25]

Cool build. I will watch this one as well. I have a suspended 185 frame as well. Let me know if you need any pics for reference.

[ametzker]

EVERYONE....YES IF YOU HAVE 185/200 SUSPENSION PICS, PLEASE POST THEM ON THIS THREAD. It would be neat to see whats been done and I don't have to search everyones threads that may have done this before. It would be great to make this a killer 185 thread. Plus it gives not only me but maybe some of you ideas for their trikes. Thanks again I love this forum.

[ametzker]

I did a little more today. I have the swingarm attached. Now I need to finish weld the brackets and beef it up a bit. The shock is just for mock up and pics I will be using a blaster shock.
ALSO IN THE BACKGROUND YOU CAN SEE MY SONS FINISHED QUAD THAT I POSTED A THREAD ON PAINTING IT LAST WEEK. Turned out nice for what it is and the $120 total investment including purchase price=)
Sorry the pics suck, I ordered a new Nikon d110 on thursday, this cheap thing is a pos, and the one I used for the other pics just stopped working today

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[200XMichigan]

Looks like its coming along real good. What are the front forks off of?

[ametzker]

Not sure what the current forks are off of. The guy I bought it from said they were off a 250r dirtbike, But I doubt it.. I think when I did a quick measurement they were 30mm. Either way they are destroyed. I am going to use the YZ80 forks from the bike I got the swingarm off of.

Here is the label from Hi Performance Products on the front forks. I wish I could get a replica of this sticker.

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[Vealmonkey]

Those forks were probably originally meant for or came on an atc90/110 that someone had modified at sometime. If the forks were meant for a 250r, then they wouldn't fit on your trike. That sticker should not be too hard to copy for someone who does things like that. Contact blue27, a member on here, he may be able to help you on the sticker reprinting.

[ametzker]

Vealmonkey yes I agree 250r forks even in the early 70's would have been at minimum 34mm. These trees were meant and made for the 185 or at least offered. Look at this advertisment
http://www.3wheelerworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=111789&d=1292639642

[ametzker]

This is my wife's trike and I want to do a special paint scheme, just wanted your opinions. My wife is pretty hot if I do say so myself....and I do. She has black hair and fair skin so I thought about a Wonder Woman paint scheme. Something using these colors with a heavy flake. I'm at work and I think thats why you can't see the pic I tried to post. I will post again later.

[1984 honda 200s]

so far it looks AWSOME and i bet it will get even better at the end, i cant wait to see the finished ATC ! Do the hubbs off the 400ex fit right on your trike? id like a wider rear end on my trike, i was thinking about spacers but if differenct hubbs work id go with that.

[ametzker]

Yes the hubs off the 400ex have the same splines and will make it significantly wider.

[1984 honda 200s]

nice, so will any year of 400ex fit the atc?

[zeeker1]

http://http://www.3wheelerworld.com/showthread.php?111068-185S-drivel&highlight=

I don't know if this "link" business works cause I never did it before but this is how PK Racing made those swingarm kits back in the day. Some of the pictures may help you out.......zeeker

[350XJEDI]

:DNICE PROJECT , I HAVE SIMILER FRONT SUSP. ON MY 110 ,WOULD LOVE TO MaKE REAR susp not sure yet how stamped steel frame:idea: . your 185 set me thinking ,cant wait to see u finish:cool:

[90crazy]

EVERYONE....YES IF YOU HAVE 185/200 SUSPENSION PICS, PLEASE POST THEM ON THIS THREAD. It would be neat to see whats been done and I don't have to search everyones threads that may have done this before. It would be great to make this a killer 185 thread. Plus it gives not only me but maybe some of you ideas for their trikes. Thanks again I love this forum.
Here's a pic of a nicholson suspension framed 185 for ya.:naughty:

[ametzker]

Thanks 90crazy. Pretty sweet. IMO if your going to give it some suspension then really give it a little more travel than that. But depending on the track they probably weren't looking for all out travel. I will post some more pics tomorrow. I got a bunch of goodies in the mail today including GForce billet wide hubs, some Maxxis Mud Bug tires and bars, brakes, cables and aluminum sprocket. Felt like christmas when I got home from work and all that stuff was sitting at my door step.

[ametzker]

Well I finished my swingarm today(other than putting in new bearings). I welded up some more bracing and powdercoated the whole thing in a semi-chrome powder. Cooked it in my wifes oven. Turned out pretty good and it holds up nicely.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK, MY WELDS AREN'T PRETTY BUT THEY HOLD JUST FINE.

IT STARTED LIKE THIS

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[200XMichigan]

Looks really good. Looks a lot like chrome. Where did you get the powder coating?

[ametzker]

Caswell products. I actually still had this powder from 2004 and its still good. I just bought a little home kit and I have done several small items and one frame. THanks

[dcreel]

I thought you may find this old article interesting..

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[ametzker]

Innovative, check out the springer front end. WTF! I think they could have made a simplier chain tensioner. I guess I will see if its something I will need when I get to that point. Thanks for the article, thats one i've never seen.

[bigworm626]

Ametzker,
Bro, you da man! It's people like you that make me want to keep coming back to this website. nice build!

[ametzker]

Thanks Bigperm I mean big worm that actually means a lot to me. I know all the guys that get on here and do projects like to get good feedback for their hardwork. This may be the only place where you can get that feedback. This whole project should be done within the next two weeks so keep watching I hope this all comes together like it looks in my mind. = )

[Lil Earl]

this is great, cant wait to see it finished

[Brockey]

Looks good. Can't wait to see the final thing. Pick a color yet?

[ametzker]

I'll post pics tomorrow but I wanted ya'll to know that I hadn't stopped working on it. The rear upper shock mount has been a little tricky. I mounted it today and the rear end sits a little high for my liking. I will remount it tomorrow and throw some more pics up. When you sit on it, it has a very plush feel and I would guess the swingarm has extended the axle out 4-5 inches from where it was stock. Looks nice though and actually works well.

[riverrat]

Just because people don't reply doesn't mean they aren't interested, very good thread!

[Jammtee]

what are you doing about the airbox. i seen a lot of pic of 185s's with suspension but known of them gave a clear view of the airbox. i must have an airbox to attach my snorkle to. the stuff i play in requires a snorkle. i have taught long and hard about the small project you are on, but the only thing holding me back is the airbox. i don't mean to tie up your thread with my questions, but pic of what you are doing will be helpfull. by the way nice work. it good to see people building their toys the way they want them instead of going out and buying a quad.

[ametzker]

Great question. I also plan on using an airbox and stock snorkel. You'll have to look back here in a week and I will put some up close pics of what i'm doing about that.

[Jammtee]

k thanks. i cut the stock snorkel. lol i go deeper than that

[Brian Lilb Keen]

nice bro i wanna do this to my ytm 200 GREAT JOB cant wait to see it done :D

[ametzker]

So things went backwards before they could go forward. The swingarm had to be modified again and again and again, Then I had to move the swingarm mounts up higher which made me have to buy a new shock. Check out the progress.


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See the chain roller set up.

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These are the tire and axle spacers

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This is the foot pegs of a polaris

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[Xowner]

Post pics of your wife sitting on it! Aint that what its all about? The smile on her face! Great build so far tho!

[ametzker]

XOWNER here you go!

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[Xowner]

:beer Thats what its all about buddy! Coming to TF? Look me up, Ill have a cold one for your and the Mrs. :beer

[bigworm626]

With your permission, the official model for 3 wheelerworld. Give this man a beer, Excellent build, it's coming together.

[r00sty]

What i have in mind is getting her and Mrs.Eric250r in the same room together with a camera!!! Who's with me on this one??? Lol

[ametzker]

I have not seen Mrs. Eric250r... got a link?

[Brockey]

The build is looking good. Thank your wife for the pics too. Now get the bike done so you can post up some riding pics.

[Jerm1179]

very nice build indeed, good looking suspension too:naughty::lol:

[Xowner]

Thanks my wife said anything you guys have in mind within reason let us know. she loves how this build is coming together.

Hey you guys get stuff rolling and come to TF. I know it sounds far from Oregon but it will be worth it!!

[Eric250R]

What i have in mind is getting her and Mrs.Eric250r in the same room together with a camera!!! Who's with me on this one??? Lol

Bwahahahaha....:beer:naughty::lol:

[big yeller]

very interesting thread....nice build. love to see it when its done.

[ametzker]

I want to run 12v lighting on this trike, can anyone tell me if the moose voltage regulator is what I need. I just want to run some fog lights or harbor freight lights on it. Or can I just connect it to the stock wires and run it as is? Thanks for the help

[Xowner]

pretty sure you can just hook it up right to the stock wires. If it had lights befor there is already a regulator built in it!

[jb2wheels]

The 185s does not have a regulator - the lights are the regulator.
The electrical system runs 12V AC to a 45W headlight and a 5W taillight. The lights don't care if you send them AC or DC.

If one bulb dies, the other goes with it because the extra juice has gotta go somehwere.

So, you can probably run a 55W light up front with no tail light and it will be bright enough. Maybe.

As a point of referrence - I had an 84 ATC 110 engine in a 78 ATC 90 frame. I used parts store LED marker light for a tail light. I managed to burn out both a 45W headlight and the tail light before I figured out the LED tail was using much less wattage than the original. I put a Moose regulator on that trike - problem solved and the stock headlight was plenty bright.

ATC 110 and ATC 185s = almost identical lighting systems.

If you're going to experiment, use the Moose regulator - it will keep you from blowing bulbs while you figure out what you're doing.

[ametzker]

Still been working at it. It just takes some time and I don't have much available. Mock up is complete other than some finish welding once its all torn down. CHeck it out


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[thestud25]

Nice build so far. I know some of the guys on here have "Kreemed" the inside of the plastic tank before painting it and I think they had good results.

[ametzker]

Yeah I've heard that works also. Thats still up in the air. THe tank once sanded happens to be almost the exact color of the seat cover and front fork boots. SO I might just add some graphics......not sure yet. Thanks for the advice.

[ametzker]

So I got the frame painted and the powdercoating done in my oven at home. Couldn't get my front tire off the usual way so improvised. LOL Sorry if there are some greeny weeny in attendance.

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[acidburn]

lol nice idea with the skateboard wheels for chain rollers i know what im using now!

[ametzker]

Acidburn those were actually rollerblade wheels but I have changed to skateboard wheels since. I can't see paying $15 a piece for "chain rollers" when I can purchase a brand new skateboard for $10 from Walmart for my kid and use his old one that has 4 wheels on it. Now thats smart shopping. If they can take rolling around on concrete with 80-200lbs on them, then they should work fine for what I need.

[Xowner]

Did you pc that stuff in the house oven? Haha how old is your little guy?

[three_wheelin45]

WOW!!! You sir do wonderfull work, Maybe some day my 185 Will have full suspension. But untill then keep up the good work man!! :Bounce

[ametzker]

Xowner yes I cooked all the powder coat in my home oven........while my wife was at work.:p My little guy is 4 and I have a 10 year old also.

[three_wheelin45]

Xowner yes I cooked all the powder coat in my home oven........while my wife was at work.:p My little guy is 4 and I have a 10 year old also.

Wow thats awesome, as a small child about 8-12 I allways wanted someone to ride with. Allways had to ride alone cause my dad was allways working and my step brother would come over during summer for about 2 weeks and he had a yfz450 and I had a bayou250. So you can see why that wasnt really riding with someone :lol: And they are also so lucky to be involved with trikes at their age, My dad never would buy me a three wheeler "what you need is a good four wheeler" But at the age of 15 (last year) I finaly got my own money for pulling my brothers trans out of his car, and Baught my own! Man I was so happy, Your kids are so lucky. They have someone to argue with whos driving and whos pushin when we are stuck. :lol: :TrikesOwn

[ametzker]

I was the same way, but my dad didn't ride at all. I was the lone ranger :wonderingwhen it came to being interested in motorsports. I wish I had the oportunities I try to give my kids. My 10 year old has a Dirtbike, a three wheeler and a side by side. He is becoming more interested in riding as he gets older and his friends think its cool. My 4 year old is a carbon copy of me.....he has been into bikes from day one. I actually bought another 1981 Z50R Honda for him, that was my first bike:p and that was in 1985. I put an automatic electric start engine with training wheels on it because he's not big enough to ride it yet. But he loves it. I married the right girl also, she's hot:naughty: and like beer and bikes. Congrats on getting your 200X I will be doing a vid on mine after I finish this project.

[Xowner]

Xowner yes I cooked all the powder coat in my home oven........while my wife was at work.:p My little guy is 4 and I have a 10 year old also.

um i think that stuff is toxic, might want to check on that befor you let the wife use it to cook your dinner. Dont want no one sick!


Thats awesome the little guy is out there helpin you

[250Eddie]

MORE PICS =), its coming out sweet cant wait to see it finished.

[ametzker]

Actually most powder coat is not toxic at all. It does smell a little when you cook it. Just by coincidence:rolleyes: I ended up doing a full cleaning on the oven this last weekend anyways including wet sanding the crap on top around the burners. Worked great, wife is happy.

[Xowner]

Actually most powder coat is not toxic at all. It does smell a little when you cook it. Just by coincidence:rolleyes: I ended up doing a full cleaning on the oven this last weekend anyways including wet sanding the crap on top around the burners. Worked great, wife is happy.


Right on man! Hate to see anyone get sick or die from somthing like that!!!

[ametzker]

So the last few weeks have been spent helping out family with other projects. Today I was able to get back to it. SEEE

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[250x]

so far this is lookin killer. Waitin for more.....lol

[ametzker]

More pics to come in the next few days. I will do another vid on the paint and also one on the aluminum polishing and engine build. :naughty:

To everyone watching this build please let me know if there is anything specifically you would like me to address in the Vids or pics now before I make them. Thanks

[Xowner]

SICK! What color plastic you going to use?

[AtcFactoryRacer]

Wow absolutely AWESOME!!!! I love the way the swingarm is shaped!! You should have added some Trick hydraulic brakes to it. Im wondering how well the stockers are gonna stop you?

[79fordblake]

Can't wait to see this build done, it is great. Plus my soft spot is 185s.

[350XJEDI]

looks good , the drum brakes will work just fine ! keep at it .

[ametzker]

:rolleyes:Anyone had any expeirence with the tapered bearing replacment for the steering stems on the 185s. I ordered some because my mounts were buggered up quite a bit. It looks as though it just sits in the lip of the steering housing, but then the stem would need to be longer to make up for the extra bit of bearing/cage sticking out of both ends. :wondering Let me know?

[barrett8]

i put these bearing in my brothers 250r and the top race did stick out about an 1/8 of an inch when it was seated. so that was how i put it together and it works fine and smooth i just took it a part after each of the first few rides with them and they where fine there way better the the loose balls

[1984 honda 200s]

Whicked build, i bet there wont be another one like that ! One of a kind ! I love the front suspension too.

[ametzker]

;) More progress, I put a vid together real quick that I will post on the next post but here are some pics which I know I like looking at on other builds.

The top was all hammered from abuse.

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So I Sazalled the top off and had to weld in another collar
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Front end polishing pics

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And after
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Front end assembled
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http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Atcandpolishing027.jpg


http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Atcandpolishing035.jpg

Not bad considering this is what I started with
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/ATC185005.jpg

[ametzker]

Here is the Vid on polishing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tTXTGhew8

[Xowner]

Very nice man! Looks like you that polishing down too!

[350XJEDI]

looks good . what front fenderare you planning , 250r?

[u.p ted]

that look nice, i need to do the to my fork on my 200x

[ametzker]

350x I am going to probably just use the fender it came with. Not sure if it was a stock 185 fender. To answer the question on paint color, the plastics will be pearl white with blue and silver in some form I haven't taped it out to see yet. The paint will be done this week. Keep watching

[ametzker]

I added a couple new pics because I noticed there was not one pic on the whole bike before I started LOOK AT THE ABOVE THREAD

Also the young kid in some of the vids and pics is my best friends son Pedro "Blue" is his nickname. He lives and breaths everything motosports, like myself they don't come from wealthy families so he comes over and I teach him how to wrench on the bikes and paint and whatever else. In return the last few bikes that he has had has been ones we restored together and did on small budgets. Good kid.
Both my kids are a little young to do to much work but my 10 year old is coming around and the 4 year old loves helping out. Good times

[gomer202]

Any updates?

[Vealmonkey]

Not trying to rain on your thread, but please be careful with that rear swingarm. Where that rear bend/weld is will be a natural stress point.

[ametzker]

Thanks Vealmonky for pointing that out. It is braced inside and out with 1/4 plate steel. Pretty sure that is a little stronger than some of the chinsy tubing I seen used with those aftermarket kits offered back in the day.
No rain only sunshine and butterflies. = )

[ametzker]

I havent quit working but I had to replace the current seat with that from a KDX 250 and the rear plastic is now from a banshee. I will post some pics later. I have had to change momentum because I am going to Disneyland with the kids this next week. Just let you know I'm hanging in and the outcome is going to be great. thanks for your support.

[Vealmonkey]

What's the matter with the 185s seat? If the seat pan is any good, let me know. I'm looking for a 185s seat pan in decent shape.

[taz]

this is awsome i have been thinking about doing something like this i have a lt230 swing arm and the 185/200 rear end is almost a bolt on. i will see if i can get a pic

[taz]

i couldn't firure out how to up load pics on here so i up loaded them on my pics if any body is interested in how close the 200s/185s rearend is to a direct fit is the lt230 swing arm .just a few washers to fill up the space

[Headsup]

I want to see a Finished project, Freaking teasing!!

[ametzker]

Taking the engine apart this week and painting on friday- some more pics soon to come. Finally able to get back to my projects. Between Disneyland and my brother inlaw getting married I have had no time to think. I need structure damn it. LOL

[ametzker]

Real quick here are some pics of the engine assembled and in. Sorry I didn't take an pics during assembly. I couldn't find my SD card. Also I polished up the pipe that I'm going to use.


http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine002.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine003.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine004.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine005.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine001.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine006.jpg

AND after
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185engine007.jpg

[200x350xtriz250]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

[hillbilly 200x]

looks great can't wait to see it all together

[gomer202]

This thing just keeps getting better

[Xowner]

Im ready to see the wife Airing it out in the front yard! GIT IT DONE! lol

[atc350xer]

Looks awesome!

[bigworm626]

Dude! Looks sick, keep up the good work. That trkes going to ride so nice, the tires combo looks wicked. A++

bigworm

[ametzker]

Thought I would have it running today but ran out of time. I had to replace the cv axles on my moms metro. Pasionate about that car:drool:
Any who, I put a bunch of pieces of pipe I had laying around to make this exhasut. Turned out nice.

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust018.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust020.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust022.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust027.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust026.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/4th2011and185exhaust024.jpg

[Thorpe]

Ya know... I just can't picture this project as well without seeing more pic's of your wife modeling it.... ;);)

[Jason125m]

That is one sick machine man! Can't wait to see it with She' plastics.

I second what Thorpe says!!!!!

[tulsamike3434]

SPEECHLESS!!!! Great work!

[ametzker]

Tulsamike- I had to go on your Youtube channel and saw the sexy wife vid. We are the crazy weird internet people that touched ourselves. My wife says its not true but she has lied in the past. = )

[ametzker]

I will post some wife pics tomorrow- We have a mexican party to go to. SO after the Tequila will be a great time. High Five= = )

[Thorpe]

^^ Have fun!! The build is looking sweet!

[ametzker]

:D Here was a few shots before we went to the party. My wife was excited from your guys posts. She told me it feels like she has a mini following on here. We'll post some good ones when it is finished here in the next week or so. By the way she is the one that came and got me to take pics. LOL:wondering

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbie185009.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbie185012.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbie185005.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbie185010.jpg:Bounce

[playasridebmx]

you are one lucky sumbish.. took me a minute to notice the trike, good work

[Brockey]

Wow! Pretty lady on a fine looking rebuild in progress. Had to go back to look at the bike tho, lol.

[hillbilly 200x]

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[tulsamike3434]

There was a trike? lol

[r00sty]

I gotta get me one of them!!! Plenty of trikes already... lol. Both looking good!!

[Bustos82]

that is one awesome build....

[Thorpe]

you are one lucky sumbish.. took me a minute to notice the trike, good work

Amen! You lucky SOB!!! Good lookin wife, and a mighty fine trike too!

[Headsup]

Wow, Nice Panties, << Whoops I mean Trike!! video?

[350XJEDI]

:drool: ;)you must have some talent , good work ,oh nice trike too!!!:D

[ametzker]

I got no talent, just a big tool......many of them:wondering
:Bounce LOL

[atc350xer]

How did you get that motor so clean?
EDIT: Went back and re read the entire thread... now I know :)

[dear140]

youre one of the most handy guys ive ever seen. freakin sweeet exhaust.

[Tuff]

know what I like besides this BADASS trike build? how all you guys stay respectful about his wife. speaks volumes about the people of this site.


ametzker, awesome build and you are one lucky dude. :beer

[tulsamike3434]

I can't wait to see it done!

[ametzker]

Tuff I agree, I think in general this is a great group of people. Plus my wife likes all the comments, I try to tell her shes hot and she doesn't beleive me.
Your guys comments reinforce that and actually encourage her to want to do more pics. X owner:postwhore

THANKS TO EVERYONE HERE THATS COMMENTED OR LOOKED ITS MADE THIS PROJECT A LOT OF FUN FOR ME .......AND MY WIFE :p

[muthey]

I have been wondering is there any way you can modify some trx 250r rear plastics to mount on that beast, I know they came in a blue that almost matches, would help with tire coverage and mud splatter if they can

[atc007]

know what I like besides this BADASS trike build? how all you guys stay respectful about his wife. speaks volumes about the people of this site.


ametzker, awesome build and you are one lucky dude. :beer

Well,,,don't wanna disappoint,,so,nice trike??

[atc007]

Tuff I agree, I think in general this is a great group of people. Plus my wife likes all the comments, I try to tell her shes hot and she doesn't beleive me.
Your guys comments reinforce that and actually encourage her to want to do more pics. X owner:postwhore

THANKS TO EVERYONE HERE THATS COMMENTED OR LOOKED ITS MADE THIS PROJECT A LOT OF FUN FOR ME .......AND MY WIFE :p

She's hot,,,and cute,,and ,very nice work on that badboy!!

[Xowner]

Tuff I agree, I think in general this is a great group of people. Plus my wife likes all the comments, I try to tell her shes hot and she doesn't beleive me.
Your guys comments reinforce that and actually encourage her to want to do more pics. X owner:postwhore

THANKS TO EVERYONE HERE THATS COMMENTED OR LOOKED ITS MADE THIS PROJECT A LOT OF FUN FOR ME .......AND MY WIFE :p


Tell her to feel free too make a post once a week we wont stop her! :P

[Brockey]

Tell her to feel free too make a post once a week we wont stop her! :P

I agree, we won't get mad at all. :)

[ametzker]

LMAO-As far as the plastics go. I have ditched the ones shown in the video infavor of some rear banshee plastics. Better coverage and overall just looks better. :Bounce As for the wife comments she would be glad to post once a week trr:welcome:

[bigworm626]

I'm really digging the stance on your trike, can wait to see it finished. Kudos on the progress.

[nicker71]

Im really impressed with what you have done so far with it. What size sprokets are you using up front and back?

[ametzker]

Nicker the rear is an aluminum 48t and the front is currently a 11t. I will probably put a 13t or 14t on the front after I see how it rides.

[nicker71]

That cool im building a huge 200x auto with the 185s motor, I currently have a 10 tooth front and a aluminum 44 rear. I just wanted to know how you like the current setup. I didnt know if you drove it with that large rear sproket.

[ametzker]

Nicker thats pretty much what my next project is. I just hooked up the chain and roller seteup today. I have to make a spacer for the front forks and then I can at least take it out on its maiden voyage to see how everything functions. Then its just paint and DONE!.

Do you have pics of your project up on the board?

[bigworm626]

Any updates kid kash?

[Thorpe]

According to the counter... Its been a week!!! Where is the wifey???

[hillbilly 200x]

According to the counter... Its been a week!!! Where is the wifey??? ya what happen to that:pics::pics::pics:

[ametzker]

poop We went camping this last weekend so I didn't get to work on the trike. Might have some pics with the trike/wife tomorrow. She doesn't have to work:beer:naughty:

[justin4]

Well get her I mean it up here and done. Wewant to see her riding it.

[ametzker]

Sorry this is taking for ever. No wife pics today but maybe tomorrow. Just trying to get the paint wrapped up. The pics below were done with a blue base then black sprayed through a curtain.

After this step in the paint process i'm going to do a purple and blue metal falke in the clear then graphics and then a final clear.

My little guy wanted to get in on a pic.:lol:

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185paint001.jpg

and after

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185paint005.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185paint006.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/185paint007.jpg

[Tuff]

innovative! love this stuff! she is gonna love the paint :beer

[hillbilly 200x]

thats sick man really like the fenders and tank

[Big3wheeler]

really cool :)

[250rRoostmaster]

Right on man!!! Def. 1 of a kind!!!!

[Brockey]

Awesome job. Its gonna be a sweet ride for sure.

[gomer202]

that thing is goiing to look sweet when it is finished

[Thorpe]

She will love it! Very cool....

[Kerick]

Looks amazing I really like your work

[Xowner]

I dont think the you guys will get the little guy off it long enough for her to ride it lol. Neat trick with the plastic.

[59GMC]

lets see the finished product!!

[bigworm626]

Dude, Dude.. Nice job, way to be unique. A+++

[thestud25]

Sweet Paint job!!! Make sure that you Kreem the inside of your tank, or the gas will cause the paint to bubble when it seeps through the tank walls. Great build!

[justin4]

We need to see this done.

[ametzker]

SO I know its been a while. My dad back in Indiana is not doing well so we drove back to take the grandkids to be able to see him one more time.:cry:
It was a good trip much needed. :)
Well I finished it up over the last few days and its 99% done. I will post a video and some more pics most likely tonight when my wife gets home, but I couldn't resist giving you guys and idea of how it turned out.

Here we go

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after001.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after002.jpg

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http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after004.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after010.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after005.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/185%20S/Abbies185after011.jpg
:w00t::beerYAMAHONDAMAN

[chuckiedog04]

amazing looking bike

[stevensj13]

That 185 came out amazing, the pattern is very cool.

[thestud25]

Dama, that turned out real nice! Good work, nice build, great thread!

[atc007]

Great work man!! Badboy looks STRAIGHT out of ATV Off Road Fury 5 !!! Awesome build to say the least!!! Congrats !! And a even BIGGER pat on the back for taking your kids back once more. How many wait until the funeral???....Makes me sick. Your kids,and Dad will cherish those days forever.

[bigworm626]

WOW! WOW! Superb job on the your one off 185. Congrates on your build bro!

[Jason125m]

Great work Ametzker!! Looks amazing. That is one unique 185, reat colour scheme.
I am also very sorry to hear about your father, hopefully he will be okay!

Jason

[nicker71]

WOW!! WOW!! WOW!! what can I say, that is amazing looking. Hell my wife even thought it looked good and she NEVER said that before about a 3/4 wheeler.

[vartiak15]

how do you like them g force hubs? and what forks and fenders did you use? looks bad to the bone man great job

[hillbilly 200x]

Thats looks great man:drool::drool::drool::drool:

[justin4]

Nice job. Looks great. Sorry to hear about your pop. Good for you taking your kids to see him you don't know how that makes him feel. You are good family.

[ametzker]

Thanks for all the comments about the trike the wife and my dad. THis is truly a great bunch of people.
Vart- Yes a love the extended hubs, the forks are from an 85 yz80, gas tank is from a 78 IT 175, the seat is from an 83 KX 250 and the rear plastics are from a banshee. The front fender is stock LOL.

[vartiak15]

front brakes off the yz also?

[Tuff]

awesome job! I think its safe to say that is the trickest 185 around! :beer

[riverrat]

Amazing job!!!!!!!

[atc350xer]

Love it! Amazing... inspires me to do something crazy with a 185!

[Thorpe]

No disrespect, but do we get a final model show, of your old lady modeling off her new trike??

[Brockey]

I didn't want to ask, but ya where's the pics of her riding the bike or modeling with the finish product. :)

[sinsayers]

That looks awesome man! Keep up the good work.

[malibulvr]

Great looking trike, real nice job! How does it handle, have you had it out yet?

[Grindin' Gearz]

Updates?!?! Lol

[bigworm626]

More updates! lol Has your 185 tasted dirt already?

[bigworm626]

More, More More! lol how does she handle kid kash?

[Drummerforu]

Wow. That is one of the Coolest builds I've ever seen!

[Lil Earl]

ive been watching this build from the beginning & have been completely amazed, i would have never expected it to look like this from what you started with, it is just completely amazing. wish i had time to do a resto project. Just sweet.

[ametzker]

Thanks for all the great comments guys. I will try to get a vid and some more recent pics of my wife actually riding it.

[ametzker]

Coming soon

[bigworm626]

More updates please, One of fav threads.

[tulsamike3434]

WOW is all I have to say about that trike!

[daBIGKAHUNA]

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This is an optical illusion - If you look for 30 seconds, a trike appears in a drive way with a wooden fence and tree behind it.

[bigworm626]

ametzker,
Were still with you buddy, any updates on the radical 185?

[bigworm626]

Mijo!!! I hope all is well, any updates or trike in actions pics? You left us hanging like a kid at a candy store with no money! lol
Best wishes for the New Year's!

[ametzker]

[X owner I know I know......I've just finished my other big project which was swaping in a Cummins 12v Diesel and transmission for the Ford V10 that was blown in my 99' Superduty F250. She turned out awesome and now we can go riding and take some pics here soon. Thanks for hanging in. Here is the F250 project just finished

From this

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/christmas2011014.jpg


To this

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/christmas2011013.jpg

To finally this

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/F250pics003.jpg

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz194/johnbrakingground/F250005-1.jpg

[bigworm626]

Ametzker in the hizzzzo!

[Xowner]

Yes! Love the cummins swap in the f250's!!!! Glad to see your still kicking man! I want pictures of both!!!!!

[ametzker]

ALLLriiight. Bigperm and Xowner still here and glad to be. I promise pics are coming this weekend. The weather sucks here but I don't care its time to play. It feels like the entire last year has been spent on these last two projects........oh wait it has been...damn. Anyways thanks for still putting up posts I will have to check your guys threads and see if you have been productive lately.

[whitetail hunter]

Any riding picks or vids yet? you built one kick ass bike. looking at the before and after you would have never thought it was the same bike. nice work

[whitetail hunter]

How tall is that bike just to get an idea. do you have a measurement from the bottom of the frame(motor cradle) to the ground? thanks

[Jon Boy]

:drool: beautiful job on that one. :beer good work on the 185 also. :lol:

gotta ask, all that custom work and no seat by the mosh's? :crazy: j/k :beer

[xman2rman]

Great job! That's one beautiful 3W!!!

[whitetail hunter]

no more pictures yet? i'm sure with a ride like that it would not be sitting in the garage! hope all is well

[madmass]

I really appreciate the thread, I have been wanting to do something like this to both my 200s and 185s. Did you make the mounts that are welded to the swingarm too? That's where I get stumped. Keep updating....very cool.

[Thorpe]

keep updating....

agreed....

[ametzker]

Sadly we decided to move to Indiana and I ended up selling it for $600 last minute. Damn: ( thanks for all those that commented it was a fun project and I hope to start another as soon as were settled in here.

[jays375]

Man that sucks!That thing was awesome!Wondered where you went to.At least the next one should go faster.Did you even get to ride it?We never got to see any finished pics either.

[ametzker]

We got to ride it but only in the park next door. Yes the next one will be faster. It was a fun project and now my boys also want a trick 110 or similar like the ones they've seen on here

[110klt]

Freakin AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice work

[Ride_Red_Man]

That looks awsome! Very well done! I had a 185 and always wnated to suspend it. really love the color scheme!

[oscarmayer]

SCHAAAAaaaaaaaaaa (wait for it..........) WING!!!!!!!!! LOL
dude, your one very lucky man! I wish I coudl use her for the girl to take photos of my 350x project I'm starting in the fall. She makes trikin look good sir! :) Good job on the catch!

[ametzker]

Thanks for the kind words. Yes the mounts were just made out of some metal I had lying around. I just welded it where I thought it looked right and then drilled a hole through it for the axle. Make sure you have all your bearings and spacers in the swingarm to get an accurate measurement before welding. LOL

[ametzker]

Miss this trike. If anyone has info on it let me know. I sold it in Oregon and moved to Indiana.

[ametzker]

240988 Trying to figure this out

[captainweezy]

So did you find it or still looking?