i figured out my 84R shift problems ! WOW

[Toledo_Tommy]

I'm in the process of doing a complete tear down/rebuild: but on another note im a new owner of this 84r and the shifting never really felt right (kinda sloppy). Once i pulled the motor from the bike i found the issue , here is a picture of the shift shaft i pulled from the trike. Let's see how good you guys are ! The top shaft in the picture is what i took out that was sloppy and the bottom shaft in the picture is the replacement shaft. What was the previous owner on ? WOW . Build is going slow , waiting on jug to get back from the shop and was sent the wrong seals . http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee117/unpure_photo/shiftshaft.jpg

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

how in the world did it even work:crazy: that guy was smokin something:wondering

[Toledo_Tommy]

What's sad is i rode it and it shift fine , he gumped up some jb weld around the case and shift shaft that i didn't notice. Held it all together for a couple of rides then broke loose and got all sloppy . What shift shaft is this from 82R ? or different bike all together ? They ae the same but the right 84R shift shaft is longer .

[Rollingmenace]

tommy if i had to guess it was a 81-82 shaft

[ridecaity]

what kind of shift problems were u havin ? i have an 84 and my chain stops turning in gears 3,4,5,.1 and 2 work fine.I have the short one like in the picture in my 84,but not sure what the prob is.

[Toledo_Tommy]

The short shaft just pulled out away from the gear inside and wouldn't let me shift anymore. With the right shaft in there now it shifts fine.

[Flossyb20]

I really hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the engine won't fit back in the frame with the 81-82 shaft on it...you'll need to find the correct shaft from an 83-84. apparently that's the only difference with the engines...the longer shaft will hit the frame on you 84.

[Toledo_Tommy]

Huh ? The longer shaft is out of a 84R i was told . The shorter shaft just moved in and out , so the longer shift shaft isn't the correct shaft ?

[bcredneck]

the little one looks like its out of a CR

[Toledo_Tommy]

Nope. I just did alittle research and Flossy is correct , The longer shaft is out of a 81-82R and the short shaft is the correct shaft. Maybe the lock clip on mine slid down and caused all the sloppy play. Ticks me off , good thing i didn't start putting it back together . Thanks for the input flossy! Is there any way to restore/ fix splines on this shift shaft ?

[bcredneck]

ive cut the splines off other shift shafts and welded them to mine to fix them you need a mig welder not a arc

[Toledo_Tommy]

OK. Thanks for the info , I just went out and looked at the shorter shaft and yes the lock clip slid down the shaft which caused all the slopp.

[bcredneck]

i fogot to metion both shafts have to be ground to a point so you can grind it flat after or it wont go thru the seal

[Dirtcrasher]

You can cut thru the opposing side of the shifter opening (hack saw, cut off wheel, sawzall) so it can close/clamp down more on the shaft.

Chopping off one spline and adding another is lathe/mig/tapered work...........

[bcredneck]

i avoided useing a lathe i clamped the shafts in stait angle iron welded and then grinded it down