125m frame snapped.

[hang&rattle]

My daughters 85' 125m frame snapped today. Broke right in half at the latch. I'm one of the rare 3-wheelers owners that have had no luck with Honda. Yamaha and Kawasaki ownership go well, but Hondas fall apart or have strange things like frames break (wtf). Wish MT had a Kawasaki 110 floating around, but I have never seen one. Did, however, spot another 110 behind a garage by the school. My question is this: how well does the 125 and 110 parts interchange? If I buy another Honda for my daughter I'd better have 2 of them to keep up on the repair as it takes Honda's two to make one run. This has been fact in my experience, but other brands are just to rare, so if we want to ride trikes, Honda may be what we are stuck with some.

[atc350xer]

The 110 is the same frame as the 125, except for all the electrics that go with having electric start. You could possibly swap over all of your 125 parts onto the 110 frame, but there may be some small mounts, etc. for electrics that would be missing. The motors will swap with no mods.

[hang&rattle]

Thanks atc350xer. Good. What about i.e. the pull starter and parts as such, do they work? If nothing matches up to the 110 from the 125m, if the old feller will sell it (he may just want it to sit behind the garage), then I'll part the 125m, if it will match up then I have the extra parts bike needed to buy the 110.

[cattle-dog]

to bad you are so far away or i would fix you right up, i just happen to have a 125m that starts first pull everytime and is really nice, just needs chain and sprockets, i wonder if anyone from near you is coming to icefest?. cattledog

[hang&rattle]

Tasha's 125m runs awesome, just the frame broke, thanks cattle-dog, I need to do something for you, lol. Don't know if it's worth swapping to a frame. She has that auto-x (which right now has a seized motor), and this was spose' to be her reliable spare, lol. The 110 by the school is in 10x's better shape than here 125m, but I know the pull start string is hangin' out so may need to use the pull starter off the 125m (if it fits). That's even if the guy wants to sell it, the old farmers just like to posses and own here, don't know why.

[Mr_RPM]

I see frames for sale used for pretty cheap.
How did it brake? loose engine mounts? (as the engine is part of the frame) rusty? I mean I have had 350LBS on my 110 and totally abusing it with no problems...

A frame swap would be easy. Grab the 110 or find something online.
Plus, alot of parts on the 110 will interchange.

[VintageHondaKid]

The 125 pull starter will not interchange on the 110, i tried it and it wont work. Just about everything else will though, although the 110 frames don't have a battery box.

[Xpress]

Well don't feel bad, you're not the only one who has bent his pressed frame :D I think all of us 90-125 owners have at one point..

[bcredneck]

cant you weld it my step brothers 185s was broke in half years ago and welded no probs yet you could even weld 1/4" plate to the sides of the tubes to renforce the h*!! out of it

[fmnrd]

hang&rattle
just went out back because I thought I might still have a 125m frame . I do not . I must have tossed it .I did find a 110 frame and matched it to a 85 125m complete trike I have in stock . The frames have mulitiple differences bettween mounts and bracket for things like muffler and battery box . I would find a 125m frame to make it a easy swap .

[Vealmonkey]

The 125m and the 110 have many small differences. Enough that the frames are not interchangable. I know of only 1 aftermarket 125 frame, so an aftermarket frame is not much of a suggestion. See if you can get rid of the good 125 parts and buy a 110 or sell the 125 parts and concentrate on the auto-x. I've seen those stamped steel frames bust way too many times. I don't know if honda really intended for these machines to last 20+ years. As innovative with the atc in the first place, alot of makers did make improvements in certain areas. The kawasaki klt110 had a very sturdy frame. The klt110 weakpoint always seemed to me to be the shifter shaft. The klt110 shifter shafts often seem to break in 2 or strip at the splines. But everyone has their own brand loyalty and deals with the problems they deal with. I've always urged people to be careful with the honda stamped steel frames. You never know what previous owners did with their trikes and how hard they ran them.

[Xpress]

cant you weld it my step brothers 185s was broke in half years ago and welded no probs yet you could even weld 1/4" plate to the sides of the tubes to renforce the h*!! out of it

Doesn't the 185S have a tube frame, not a pressed frame??

[hang&rattle]

Hey!, thank you fellas. We'll check on the 110, and (and I feel bad for the poor thing like its alive) part the 125m maybe. Heck, it ran good and she had a blast on it. I think all mechanical works, so maybe it'll help someone else. IDK. Vealmonkey, I'm p.m.'ing you.

[350XJEDI]

i have a couple 125 frames if you can get someone to pick it up will give you one pm . iam in vancouver wash. dont know bout shipping ,seem like a pain but , you or freind pick up its free

[hang&rattle]

i have a couple 125 frames if you can get someone to pick it up will give you one pm . iam in vancouver wash. dont know bout shipping ,seem like a pain but , you or freind pick up its free

Thanks for offering, good to know, I appreciate you wanting to help, thank you. Give me a touch of time to persue the 110. May be more worth the while. My concern is the owner being a dink. Per capita of people for a 200 or so person town, this place is a proctologists dream, wall to wall ***holes, so I'm hopin' he's not one of them.

[Xpress]

^:lol:


i have a couple 125 frames if you can get someone to pick it up will give you one pm . iam in vancouver wash. dont know bout shipping ,seem like a pain but , you or freind pick up its free

It shouldn't be all that much to get shipped out if you do it by ground- get insurance on it. I think the biggest issue will be the size, not necessarily the weight.

[Dirtcrasher]

Where is the pic??!! I wanna see the frame!

I have an 85 125 pull start in 10 pieces. It's all there, but needs blasting/restoring.

Apparently the 85/86 are pretty rare and difficult to find, with nothing else that swaps onto them.

[fabiodriven]

Apparently the 85/86 are pretty rare and difficult to find, with nothing else that swaps onto them.

It's just the 86's that are the different ones. Those are a whole different animal.

[hang&rattle]

The pull start was bad on the 110 we spotted. Tasha's 125m was mechanically in good running shape. Just this frame-

[fabiodriven]

Break out the duct tape.

[thestud25]

Just weld the Shi! out of it!!!

[350XJEDI]

i will check on shipping ,will have to finish disassembly the rearnand stuff still on it its a 85 .:rolleyes: have seen them break before the same and also by the neck . it can be welded but will not be pretty :naughty:

[bcredneck]

i know plenty of welders that can fix that and make it stronger than it was before

[fabiodriven]

Good for you Redneck.

[Thorpe]

Fabio-- You make me laugh!

[hang&rattle]

I can weld too. Or have it done. The frame was stressed, may just be better to replace. To transport, and you have to be very careful, the motor has to be left in. Then everything has to be torn apart at the shop. Long distances and time consuming. Plus, if frame is stressed, as I feel it is, even welded, it'll snap right behind the weld. Swapping over everything to a different frame only takes a few hours, around 8 if we do some polishing and painting. However, another trike is needed in the meantime, as Tasha is without, so that's why I considered the 110 route. I'll do some checking on it later today. 350XJEDI may have the solution. This is like a pet to Tasha. She chooses this trike over the auto-x. She cries when me or Onnie tip it over or rod it to much. So she'll have to really be impressed with 110 to be happy, and then I can't let her see it while I'm parting it, so this is a tricky situation. She's taking it o.k., but is still upset, I may have to bribe her with a dirtbike, IDK.

[bcredneck]

i didnt mean just weld the brake i ment welding that and cutting steel plate to fit the length of the tube and welding that on to
theres no way she will brake that in half

[cattle-dog]

hang check to see what it would cost to ship the 125m i have to you,14108 is me i will strap it to a pallet and it will be on its way i will never ride it, not into the small trikes. i wouldnt think it would be 200-300 bucks and you would have parts to keep it running forever.

[Xpress]

The pull start was bad on the 110 we spotted. Tasha's 125m was mechanically in good running shape. Just this frame-

WOOO that's a good one. Almost all the way around.

[Mr_RPM]

This is like a pet to Tasha. She chooses this trike over the auto-x. She cries when me or Onnie tip it over or rod it to much. So she'll have to really be impressed with 110 to be happy, and then I can't let her see it while I'm parting it, so this is a tricky situation. She's taking it o.k., but is still upset, I may have to bribe her with a dirtbike, IDK.

I'm the same way
Its an old companion lol

[hang&rattle]

hang check to see what it would cost to ship the 125m i have to you,14108 is me i will strap it to a pallet and it will be on its way i will never ride it, not into the small trikes. i wouldnt think it would be 200-300 bucks and you would have parts to keep it running forever.

Thanks cattle-dog, but please, don't go to that much trouble. I can just throw a motor in the auto-x for the shipping price, they're out of control for transport. This has got to be an inexpensive fix or not worth the time or efforts. On a side note, look how this community is pulling together and going out of there way for Tasha and this one little 125m. That's got to say something to folk that don't realize the quality of people you get to associate with in the 3-wheeler community. There is not another type of site comparable to the trike folk.

[cattle-dog]

hang it just makes me smile to see the pics of you all riding and hearing how your two kids want to ride instead of playing video games constantly and that little girl riding the trikes is great reminds me of how things were when i was a kid.

[MrPretty]

hang check to see what it would cost to ship the 125m i have to you,14108 is me i will strap it to a pallet and it will be on its way i will never ride it, not into the small trikes. i wouldnt think it would be 200-300 bucks and you would have parts to keep it running forever.

I could throw in a little bit of money to help on shipping :)

[hang&rattle]

I could throw in a little bit of money to help on shipping :)

Thank you MrPretty, but it's not all about money. It's the worth of it all and the time and work for it. I'll run the auto-x in in a couple of days to see if the old cycle shop we use has enough parts to do a quick repair on the 200 motor, bet they do. Checked the house where the 110 was and no one was home. The kids will ask around at school. What's making this difficult is, in part, the weather and cold. Really putting a strain on things with the sub-zero and ice & snow. And I tried to ship a 70 from Southern Oregon this spring and it was $600. I really didn't persue it to much, but know a step brother shipped a $30,ooo GTO from Florida for he said $250 (?). But don't feel it can be had for that much. Hey, thanks fellas, I'll get her something to ride right quick & will now keep my eyes open for a frame for the future, sounds like folk don't want this old 125m to go, lol, it is a little worn fellas, runs for a little girl, but tired. Have too many irons in the fire. We are redoing her auto-x, have an 84' Tecate that needs cleaned up, and a special project I'm keeping a low-down on, lol. Mix that with other trikes maintenance and minor repairs and it's a little overwhelming. Tasha just read the lasts few posts and said "AAhhh, tell em' thank you", so she appreciates the effort too. And remember 350XJEDI may have a frame, he's workin' on it too. Pretty cool with so many people having our back though, thanks- The Tienhaara family.

[98rangerll]

if you decide to part it out pm me i might be interested in some parts i have 2 110s and feel like being creative lol

[bcredneck]

if the only difference bettween 110 and a 125 is some mounts and brakets cut them off the 125 and weld them to a 110 frame

[98rangerll]

also if you dont want to switch over the mounts looked on ebay found a 125m frame http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/84-HONDA-ATC125M-ATC125-ATC-125-M-FRAME-/110586670444?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19bf7aad6c he is shipping from utah only 35 shipping cattle-dog i just got a 250sx frame shipped for 40 bucks wrap it in cardboard and plastic ups will ship it i would guess probly about 40-50 bucks

[hang&rattle]

Thanks for the link ranger & the time looking it up. Ya, sooner or later a member will have one available I feel. The thing is, in the link, that dude is expensive. No way will I pay that when a whole 125 trike will pop up for that. And man, if someone if going to charge it's weight in gold, at least clean it up, can't even see the frame, lol. Cattle-dog wants to send us a whole trike! Way too nice of a fella, lol. Makes me feel kinda guilty, like I'm mooching off him & I can't really do anything for him that he can't do his self so I don't feel I'm giving back. If this was summer, I'd be impatient, but with this really bad weather we only ride a couple of times a week, so I'll wait and see what pops up in the very near future. 200 auto-x or 110 for now I think. Thanx.

[350XJEDI]

:cool:HEY GOT that 125 frame all stripped down frame looks to be perfect , thing was holding about 10 pounds of mud but will hose it of later ,thon wrap it in cardbourd , dont know where ups is but will find out they ship by waight? will tryy to get it ready and find out cost for shipping later got to work first 'will be on when get time today:p:Bounce

[350XJEDI]

:wonderingdid you weld the frame? I have'nt found out shipping yet but do have the frame stripped and cleaned . just wondering , did you fix her autox ?:D

[hang&rattle]

:wonderingdid you weld the frame? I have'nt found out shipping yet but do have the frame stripped and cleaned . just wondering , did you fix her autox ?:D

I just ran to the next town today and checked to see if it would be able to be welded. I took some of the stuff off around where it needs to be welded, but don't know if this is going to work (welding), but an old guy at the airport (lol, it's a small town, Choteau MT.) said they may be able to if I move some stuff outa the way. But the fella at the gas station who I thought could weld it (couldn't), happened to have an old 3-wheeler, but wasn't sure what it was, but he did have it running a while ago. Anyways, he said we could have it & he would bring it in from his ranch, don't know when though, lol. So JEDI, I haven't got anywhere on it yet, lol, trying, but no go yet.

[Jammtee]

just a thought. you could weld the frame and i am sure it will keep her riding untill you get another frame. i know that i do what i have to get my kids riding. i know what you mean about overwhelming projects. being that this family of four has four independant rides. my bike is always the last to get fixed right. good luck with the trike and the weather due to the fact it doesnt get that cold here lol.

[hang&rattle]

just a thought. you could weld the frame and i am sure it will keep her riding untill you get another frame. i know that i do what i have to get my kids riding. i know what you mean about overwhelming projects. being that this family of four has four independant rides. my bike is always the last to get fixed right. good luck with the trike and the weather due to the fact it doesnt get that cold here lol.
Hey thanks Jammtee, you're pretty cool. And you're right, she needs to have her own trike (and the 125m was her spare!), look what she did to mine today, & it looked even worse later, lol.

[Jammtee]

ha ha hell yea. how old is she. my son is ten and he has been riding since he was six. although he started on an atv he has rode the little red devil. sorry about your luck with hondas. my daughter is now five and she has been riding since she was three and half. she is a little dangerous to let her loose on my trike being that she has flipped her little china bike a few times. she aint scared and it is gonna cost me as she grows up lol.

[350XJEDI]

yup, now that bike is hers and you get the 125 .lol :w00t::w00t::lol:

[hang&rattle]

Cool! Local shop welded it, pretty cool. But now it bogs at WOT so I must have missed something putting it back together :wondering, so anyhow, we now have the auto-x motor and her 125m for her spare, thanks guys.

[bcredneck]

looks like the welder did a good job

[bcredneck]

and you used my steel plate idea