exited about this.

[portland250r]

theres a tecate for sale in my area i might be able to get for a small trailer i dont have my hopes up i called the guy and he said someones offering him a trailer so if he doesnt get it i might get lucky. this is the exact model i want to.
thinking about throwing extra things in on the deal if a trailers not enough.

portland.craigslist.org/clc/mcy/2111530496.html

[Chazz of Blades]

Sweet! Just go ahead and put it under my tree.

[Bretmd94]

:shiftyeyes: hmmm that is only a 4 hour drive....

[ezmoney1979]

I remember this bike being for sale during the summer. I think he was asking $1400. I cant believe its for sale again- I hope you rescue it portland250r. I would race you for it, but you have a four hour headstart :lol:

[fabiodriven]

You should know by now not to post a link until you have the bike Portland. Somebody very well could snatch it from you...

[Twilight]

I was the one offering the trailer.

Bike needs lots of work, and im not interested after seeing it... Unless there was someone in front of me or he changed his mind on trailers last night 250r, its all yours.

[hang&rattle]

Are the B1-B2's rare in that neck of the woods? Are they sought after competitively? Lots of beautiful 250r's in that state, that's why I was wonderin'. Are the Tecate's more $ than the 250r's? Wondering. Only one complete, really nice B-1 I have seen in MT and he wants $2000 for it (Missoula). Same with an 86' 250r (Kalispell), $2000. So You folks out west there are very fortunate. Good luck, hope you nail this one, but for way less than he's asking.

[Twilight]

You can get a nice 250r around here for 1200 and a clean one for 1500.

That tecate will be around 2k if the motor is as good as it felt... but didnt feel like no 310 kit, i'll tell you that.

250r- check it CLOSELY, and have the VIN checked.. did he send you the extra pictures he has?

[portland250r]

i did not get the extra pics, and the vin has not been checked yet, thanks for the reminder its going to need a lot of work. im going to get the vin from him tomorrow its mostly already my trike now.

[Twilight]

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Heres some more pics. They look better than it is, he told me he had people from conneticut wanting it, but I had to ask... why has been for sale for all this time? He told me to leave, haha

[portland250r]

this will be a good project but im talking him down tomorrow, i cant wait to put this thing up against my 250r.

[ezmoney1979]

i did not get the extra pics, and the vin has not been checked yet, thanks for the reminder its going to need a lot of work. im going to get the vin from him tomorrow its mostly already my trike now.

Sweet! Looks like a good start! I see a stock grab bar too. Let me know if you need parts. I might be able to help you out.

[portland250r]

Sweet! Looks like a good start! I see a stock grab bar too. Let me know if you need parts. I might be able to help you out.

thanks a brake kit brand new is over 600$, im going to need some parts, ill hit you up when it comes around.

[portland250r]

now are tecates fast like the 250r's? the guy i talked to said theyre more like a four stroke and dont take off as quick as the 250r's i have a hard time believing that cause if you have watched the old ama trike races the tecates always came in first place.

[ezmoney1979]

Dont worry- you wont be dissapointed :lol: Bretmd94 should be uploading a Gopro vid soon (hurry up Bret) of a little 85 250r vrs 87 T3 from two weeks ago at the dunes! It will give you a good idea of how comparable the two really are. They are both very quick.

[Xpress]

Well, there's an old saying..

"Honda guys are used to seeing green."

[cr480r]

Bretmd94 should be uploading a Gopro vid soon (hurry up Bret) of a little 85 250r vrs 87 T3 from two weeks ago at the dunes! It will give you a good idea of how comparable the two really are. They are both very quick.

Oh cant wait!!! hurry up Bretmd94....

[portland250r]

i hope this guy is flexible about the tecate he thinks cause people are calling from out of state makes it worth a lot more than it is, but all they want is the good stuff left on it, i cant wait to cram this one in the shed i hope all the hondas are nice to it. sure they will be suprised to see a green one, once i get it restored its never going up for sale again. again there are 6 hondas in the shed and about to be a kawasaki.

not all of them are mine,

cr60(these ones are rare)
86 200x doesnt run
another 86 200x
350x doesnt run
250r(the king)
huge utility atc. doesnt run

[cr480r]

the '87 looks kinda rough, but definately a nice start to a sweet ride for the right price.. It looked way sweeter in the c-list add

[portland250r]

if it goes as i expect im going to replace the broken rear parts then clean it up and use it for a rider, after that im getting it all redone, new plastics and i definitely will need a shiny chrome exhaust for it. im not a kawasaki person YET. i use a paul turner for the 250r now do those parts also work well with tecate's.

[cr480r]

I think your options for pipes are limited.. besides jemco its kinda like run whatever you can find.. The stock pipe is probably much better than a stock honda pipe.. 85-86 KX pipes can be adapted nd4speed has a thread somewhere about it.

[ezmoney1979]

Is the tank as sweet as it looks? Or are the pics decieving? No key? or is it broke off and hiding behind the headlight shroud that appears to be in good shape? One of the best things about restoring a second gen is having OEM fenders still available! And the reproduction shrouds can be had as well.

[hang&rattle]

The Tecate's are faster. That's a fact. & when someone brings up a souped up 250r the B-1/B2 can be also. Apples to Apples they are quicker and faster, but, not as comfy. They are raw and violent, which I think from reading your posts and the way you ride will be right up your alley. But becoming more and more popular, so It'll be worth more, they are rare, but that dude sellin' needs a reality check, that tike is rough and neglected, he's not sellin' a $1000 machine. A nice 250r goes for that in AR. That's a good start, but look at ezmoney's, that thing will stand out and shine in a sea of red. But, I am impartial, 250r, Tri-Z or Tecate, all the same to me.

[dcreel]

Looks like the shift lever might be stripped as well. When they dangle down to the frame rail that usually means a stripped out lever or splines.

[gotballs 250r 82]

i'm pissed! a guy im miami craigslist had one for sale with a kaw- 250 4 wheeler for 1100 for both so i call him friday he says he sold the three wheeler but he wants 800 for the 4 wheeler so i say how much did you sell the kaw- three wheeler for he says $300 i like to die im kicking my self for not calling thursday night ............. all it need was a carb and a pipe he says it was a part bike (ya right)

[portland250r]

well i just got back, the trike needs a crap load of work, the swing arm bearing is loose and vibrates the shift lever is messed up and the gas tank is painted, thats only very little of the problems it runs good but just isnt worth what he wants so im going to go price all the parts i need to get it back into good shape then see how much i come to and then tell him how much i can pay, this is a very risky project. i want it but he is going to have to understand that its going to cost as much in parts as i can buy a decent 250r for but i hate to see it go through more neglect so i will give an effort to get it cheap. if someone else wants to beat me to it then do it but if not then i got to rescue it.

[portland250r]

the kick starter spring is shot it goes up a little but after a kick i have to pull it back up with my hand it fires up and runs strong. i am looking at the needed parts right now then tomorrow going to call him and let him know what its worth.

[Twilight]

Sorry I totally spaced on the tank part, thought I said it somewhere.

Told ya ma, gonna be more than 2k just to get it nice.. not WOW nice.

It does run good, but is NO 310 kit.

[portland250r]

Sorry I totally spaced on the tank part, thought I said it somewhere.

Told ya ma, gonna be more than 2k just to get it nice.. not WOW nice.

It does run good, but is NO 310 kit. yea its bored thats all i fired her right up and did some laps i will tell you what i was blown away. not as fast as my R but it had to be the fastest kawasaki i have ever been on i wanted to stay out there all night and tear it up but i its not mine yet. i laughed at what he said about the bearings being shot, he said oh thats for cornering. no the bearings are shot if he dont agree to my price tomorrow im just going to let him sit on it till he finally just tells me to get it off his property cause only way thats leaving at his price is if some little kid or as you would call NOOB gets fooled.

[portland250r]

for some reason i am drawn to that trike. even though its seen better days theres something about it that just makes me not want to give up on it.

[Twilight]

500 is what i would give... nothing more or its a rip off.

You get the VIN checked? He got really shakey when I asked and after that was pissed at me.

[portland250r]

never did yet, he was in a hurry to put it away and i was looking at the damages. i can get all the parts for less than a thousand not including fenders. what im going to do is write of all the parts and the prices then go out and talk to him about it. i can almost guarentee he is not going to want 500 but sooner or later he will give it up i was going to do 400 but 500 sounds a little more convincing to him.

[ezmoney1979]

Yeah I understand how you feel. I passed up on two 86s earlier this year up in Sutherlin. I drove two hours to see them and you know how it goes, they always look better in the pics :lol: They were nearly beat beyond recognition! Cracked frames, cracked engine cases, blown shocks and forks, zip ties, hose clamps, bailing wire, mis-matched front end, spray bombed everywhere, it was unreal. So I paced back and forth in this guys driveway for like an hour, made a call to my trike friends asking for advice, gave him $40 for an extra set of forks/hub/wheel/tripples/headlight assembly/brake assembly and drove away. In the back of my mind I still think I should have rescued one of them but at the time I wasnt even done building the one I had. Oh and BTW, plan on replacing every bearing/seal on any T3 you find........ they arent Hondas:lol:

[Twilight]

Thats why I posted those pics, he sure as hell wasnt sending me anyway.

[portland250r]

the guy who looked at the trike with me said the stock yfz he had is faster, i call bullshit i have killed many built to hell yfz's with the old honda they suck i tried one out not to long ago the gears in them are short and they just dont take off like the old 2 strokes they are trying to make the yfz's RIDER FRIENDLY. actually the older models are more power from 86 and up they tuned down a lot of their bikes. mostly the cr500 i have a friend who worked back in the golden days of atc's there were changes done from what he said.

[ezmoney1979]

Man, I have have no idea what YFZs you have been around but my nearly stock (cam advance,K&N,DR.D) 05 450 blows away bretmd94s 85 250r (265cc dune port,paul turner high rev,38TMX,etc.) every time and I know it will beat my 87 T3 until I swap pipes and get it dialed in a little more. I dont think you were reving the YFZ high enough :lol: when revved the piss out of, they deliver!

[cr480r]

the 250 two strokes hang pretty good with 450's out on the flat.. but the 450's torque advantages start to show when the hill gets steep. I could beat all of my friends banshees and 450's dragging on the flat. I'd get them out the hole by 2 everytime and hold it.. but most of them could pull a gear higher when we raced on steep uphill.

[fabiodriven]

Oh and BTW, plan on replacing every bearing/seal on any T3 you find........ they arent Hondas:lol:

That's total bullocks. Any 25 year old machine you come across whether it be a Kawi, Yami, or Honda is going to need bearings and seals. The three of them are probably buying their bearings and seals from the same damn factory for cripes sake.

[portland250r]

Man, I have have no idea what YFZs you have been around but my nearly stock (cam advance,K&N,DR.D) 05 450 blows away bretmd94s 85 250r (265cc dune port,paul turner high rev,38TMX,etc.) every time and I know it will beat my 87 T3 until I swap pipes and get it dialed in a little more. I dont think you were reving the YFZ high enough :lol: when revved the piss out of, they deliver!

well i have never ridden a stock 250r the one i have used is about ready for some tuning up but its killed many yfz's not all but about 70% of all the yfz's its been up against. even banshees have lost to it but they werent drag bikes.

[D-dub]

Man! Just buy the Tecate and start wrenchin!:D

[portland250r]

well i offered him 500$ he doesnt want to sell it for that i told him how much its going to cost to get that tecate running strong again. ill just let him sit on it. call weekly and see if he still wants it unless someone else picks it up for a high price. the parts are going to cost me around 1500$ excluding fenders and nice looks. he wants toyota parts and all this other trade in so i said i would keep an eye out for those parts or other things.

[hang&rattle]

That's total bullocks. Any 25 year old machine you come across whether it be a Kawi, Yami, or Honda is going to need bearings and seals. The three of them are probably buying their bearings and seals from the same damn factory for cripes sake.

Hafta agree (& sick of always agreeing with fabiodriven, wtf, lol). Exactly the opposite for me. All the hondas we have had to have all the bearings replaced, my two Tecates were tight. But could just be my luck, but 6 hondas, all had rear bearing poblems (and stem bearings on 3), even the Yamaha had bad rear bearings. But my Tecates needed nothing (well, they needed tuned good), they just ran.

[ezmoney1979]

Yup, we all have our different experiences! I think we can all agree it just depends on how well the machine was maintained by the previous owners. And honestly, when I rebuilt my Tecate it still had the original steering stem bearings and front wheel bearings........ but then again the original front brake bads were at 50%:lol:

[Twilight]

All my hondas been 95% good to go. For all my original owner stuff; everything peachy.

[portland250r]

nice glamy i remember seeing your post a while back. i wish this guy would be that nice about the price.

[ATCeeya]

I can see that bike needs work but come on man your only offering him 500 bucks? I dont blame him for not selling u it that cheap. id offer him 800-900 and probably go a grand if he played hardball since it runs and all. i could only wish it was closer to me. i have never even seen one in person and only 1 forsale on my local craigslist for 2200 bucks and was sold in the same hour it was listed and trust me i was scrambling for the cash the second i saw it but wasnt fast enough.

[ezmoney1979]

Yeah if times were better I would buy it for a $800-$1000. After rebuilding my first one the second would be much easier. Is this one infact an 87?

[86T3]

I have to agree with atceeya, i paid 1200 for mine 7 years ago and had to drive to New Jersey for it. Tecates seem to have gone up by about %50 since then. Remember, they 're green for a reason $$$$$$.Good luck

[fabiodriven]

Yup. I paid top dollar for my 86. You wanna play, you gotta pay.

[hang&rattle]

But that's over there guys, which is kinda like in Montana. Some are really cheap by unknowing or fair sellers, but any 250r or Tecate is twice what it is in AZ. A trike can be shipped from AZ or CA to Oregon for around $250. And save Portland250r hundreds upon hundreds. We have horse and livestock haulers in the NW u.s. that will pick up a ride from down south for a $100 or so. Or snowbirds who go back and forth can bring it up for cheap. Let the dude be greedy sellin' it. There are other options. Heck, we trike owners need to set up a program for intricate buying. So many goin' to trikefest from the west and to the dunes from the east, gotta be some way to ship and haul to help eachother out. I have seen nice racing trikes in eastern OR and WA for half that, so gas would be cheaper than the greedy sellers price. That Tecate, in it's condition is not worth anywhere near $1000 on the west coast, just research. I don't want to see Portland get ripped off is all. There are so many options I'm seein'.

[fabiodriven]

I don't think he's being greedy. He knows what it's worth and he's attempting to get just that. There is no reason for him to give it to a stranger for a few hundred less. He might as well just go hand somebody $300.

[ezmoney1979]

The seller is in no way being greedy IMO and if I had the cash it would be in the back of my truck and there would be a new thread to start. Yeah there is the occasional second gen around this area but not like it is getting made out to be. I mean come on- if it is an 87, (two of our 3WW guys that looked at it still have not confirmed) when is the next time you will have a chance to buy another, especially one that runs and rides! I am sure a few of you have seen my 87 when I bought it. That was $500 seven years ago and I felt like I stole it. I am thinking that if the economy was better, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[hang&rattle]

I hear ya guys and I understand. The dude had it listed for $1400, it didn't sell. Then the out of state calls he feels are prospects, from where? Who do we know that lives in WA, ID, because a CA, AZ, or WY, MT would not drive and purchase that for a grand for parts. And members have picked up these 2nd gen, in twice as good as shape for a thousand to fifteen hundred dollars less than Portland will pay (minimum) to fix it up. Now EZMoney can have braggin' rights for his Tecate. He busted his @$$ and IMO has one of the nicest in the country, but he was patient and turned down deals to make it happen. Kasey, glamy, and the others used several pieces and several months to financially justify there rides or just found complete for way less. This trike will be a minimum and I mean a minimum of $2500 dollars in repairs, plastics and misc stuff. There are 2nd generation Tecates out there for much less. All I was sayin' is Portland wants a somewhat decent rider. That one needs work and lots of $. He's fortunate to have ezmoney with the knowledge and parts, but with all it said and done, Portland will be payin' way too much when he could buy a better lookin' rider or for cheaper, unless he's lookin' for a restore to spend the cash on. Aren't you lookin' for a rider? I just don't want to see him get ripped off is all guys. This dude's has some good stuff it looks on it, but man, a 250r, tri-z, or 1st generation is way less. And I'm feelin' bein' drawn to a trike, when that trike finds you, you know it, but the seller acted funny a couple of times, so feelin' like something's up with this one, IDK. Portland, ezmoney is there near you, I'd get with him before you do anything, by reading these guys posts on speakin' with this fella, something is fishy here.

[ATCeeya]

I still think 500 is a lowball..this is not some run of the mill, in need of TLC 200x..Its an 86/87 T3 that runs!

I bet the guy would negotiate to 8 or 900..If 3 or 4 hundred breaks the bank on this T3 buy/rebuild maybe its not in your best interest to be buying it. Hang&Rattle, If its a minimum of $2500 in repairs that would be a total of 3 grand in the end. So whats the big deal really if your grand total is instead 3300-3500 due to your higher purchase price? And if there are such better deals to be had, then why make an offer in the first place if its only going to cost you so much more in the end making it in your opinion a bad deal.

The bike listed is not a Cali-bike so your comparing apples to oranges as far as pricing and availability of these bikes go. But its still a T3, that runs and rides, which is definately worth more than 500 bucks.

To each his own I guess..maybe a mint 87 t3 will come his way shortly for right around a thousand...

[portland250r]

yeah im still trying to get it its going to be a everyday rider if i get it. im trying to gather up stuff for trade in. this tecate gives me a feeling no other tecate ever has. i just dont want to end up paying more money to get this one ready for major rides then i could use to get i better rider. but i have a problem with this trike going to waste and i hate to see it go off to another kid whos going to trash it more than it already has been, he told me when he got it he traded something, the kid who owned it before him rode the sh!t out of it then decided to sell it after it was mostly due for work.

[Twilight]

There has been 6 86/87 tecate 3 in the Portland/Washington craigslist in the past year. 1500-1800 was the price and they were in MUCH better condition..

I couldnt tell if it was a 87, i didnt see any markings.

[ceaserthethird]

It Can get out of Hand Quick, Your going to pay big for the Discontinued Parts.

[Twilight]

Exactly, and all the guy knows is that people from out of state want it until they see how it looks up close.

bummer tho, motor and frame only good thing

[portland250r]

the headlights there to he's not seperating anything from that trike.

[portland250r]

he says it might be gone tomorrow if he doesnt get cash, he;s doing a trade in i offered a generator dewalt radio and drill then threw in a mustang engine that needs rebuild and he wasnt interested.
ill have to let it go.

[hang&rattle]

There has been 6 86/87 tecate 3 in the Portland/Washington craigslist in the past year. 1500-1800 was the price and they were in MUCH better condition..

I couldnt tell if it was a 87, i didnt see any markings.
That's what I was getting at. A $1000 + around $1500 minimum parts. The engine rebuild parts could cost that much. BUT, Portland feels the need to salvage (and if that Tecate is calling your name, it's meant to be), and I have bought a Tecate on a buddies advice sight unseen, because I saw a video of it sitting in a salvage yard, but complete and running.
Twilight saw this thing and is as I suspected, nearly all will be replaced on it. $$$$$$$$$ So he needs to come down on price. Heck, I know a stock 86', 1 owner in great shape for $2000, and he's only high because he don't want it parted or to go to someone who will trash it (& the rarity of Tecates in Montana). And run the VIN. If he got funny when it was mentioned, a bill of sale might not be enough to clear the title to have it registered, IDK. And ATCeeya, that was the whole point, read my post, he could have one shipped in better shape from AZ or CA for much less, even with shipping.

[portland250r]

well someone else got it for a restore project so im happy to see that its going to be returned to its former glory. there will be another one that pops up just have to wait.