More 3-wheeler wildlife caution.

[hang&rattle]

Check this out: http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20101110/NEWS01/11100312/1002/rss With the recent 'bear' thread on our riding discussion, just read this this morning. This is an area my kids and I have frequented in the past. Also an area where a FWP biologist had 3-4 collared grizzly bear in less than a square mile. My complaint here is the value of human life being less than that of an animal. God did not intend this, humans are at the top of the list in his book, but, as in so many other cases, these two gentlemen will be punished by FW&P for this, in some way, shape, and form. Sad. I love seeing the bears, deer, elk, coyotes, porcupines, skunks, eagles, wild turkeys, hell, just about all of it. But not Wolves or Mountain Lions. These are dangerous animals. And when an animals rights, are that more than of humans, this will be very dangerous for game wardens etc., to actually be helpful in the back country. These wolves are a varmit, pest. I would love to see more of them, but now have become to abundant and brave. On more thing to fight and watch for while me and my kids are enjoying the mountains, as if the laws and gov't weren't enough of a pain in the rear-end, lol!!

[ezmoney1979]

Sorry I disagree with a lot of your post. We wont go into the religious side of it for obvious reasons but those people sounded like morons, I mean come on "I am very pissed off," Appleby said. "I lost all my hard-earned elk meat to a pack of damn wolves. I feel fortunate and blessed by God to have gotten out of there with my life, my friend's life and horses' lives. I've been out in the mountains five times in a week and have seen wolves on three of those times, including this attack." Well the guy already knew the wolves were in that area and besides I am sure the wolves were probably thinking "We are very pissed off, we have nearly lost all of our hard earned elk meat to some inbred, .44 toting, hillbilly." lol But seriously, you gotta remember whose backyard is whose.

[hang&rattle]

^ It's obvious you didn't read the whole article and have no experience living in the mountains and country. I have. I do. And it is as much human rights to hunt food in the back country as it is an animals. Hunting for that meat is not cheap, but way more healthy than the steroid ridden feeder beef we buy in stores. ezmoney1979- how many horses, cattle and sheep have you seen slaughtered by a pack of wolves?, not hunted for food, they will wipe out a whole flock of sheep killing for fun without eating. It's sad seeing a newborn colts throat chewed open, or the schredding and bite marks on a cow they failed to take down. ezmoney1979- you city-lovin' tree huggers need not reply with your ignorance and stupidity. Read completely so you aren't viewed as such an idiot.

[Bretmd94]

The article didn't say anything about the hunters getting charged for killing the wolf as of yet. I agree with Money though, If you go in the woods to hunt, expect to be also hunted. It's really not worth risking your life fighting over a carcase with a pack of hungry wolves. They just came for the easy meal, and I am sure they will fight for it. Shooting an endangered species to protect your dead elk is stupid IMO. Get on your hourse and GTFO before you get your self ate.
I live in the woods, but never carry a gun. I don't much care for killing the deer or bucks that live on my property. I have seen cougars, bears, bobcats but very rarely. I don't bother them, they don't bother me. I'm guessing these "hunters" may be more city than money or myself if they had to kill a wolf to get out of that situation.

[hang&rattle]

^Again, a comment made with no knowledge, or maybe just do not understand the written article. #1- The wolf is NOT an endangered species, they are overpopulated and shutting down ranches with their killing sprees on the Rocky Mountain front. #2- They were fleeing being chased by the wolves, not guarding the elk, lol. I do not hunt either, have nothing against it, but the side arm carried is for safty, just for the purpose of defending yourself. And look up these gentlemen, they are both country folk. Here's a senerio- Transplant a pack of 10-15 wolves in the Medford area, as the Pacific Northwest had lots of wolves a hundred years ago, then you can take your little walk in the country, just see if they don't bother you, your small animals, or small children.

[Bretmd94]

Read the article dummy. It states that they were put back on the endangered species list last August.

"Wolves were removed from the federal endangered species list in May 2009, and became subject to Montana's wolf management plan, which included a hunting season that fall.

On Aug. 5, U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy reinstated Endangered Species Act protection for wolves in the Northern Rocky Mountains."

And second, they didn't say they were chased.. They said they could hear the wolves howling as they left and their horses were upset making leaving harder on them.

And I say bring back the wolves to Sothern Oregon. It is because of people such as yourself that they are extinct in this area.

The article also states that there has only been two human deaths since 2004. So you saying that because some hunters got scared and killed a wolf while trying to retrieve a carcase that was in a shitty spot, that we should open up hunting on wolves so we can kill them all? Its not like a pack of wolves came into town and killed a family.

[thestud25]

This is not going to end well...

[tri-z987]

who cares...this is about stupid..:rolleyes:

[Fungo Wizard]

I agree Stud this is going no where. Let's all agree that we should expect wolves, bears, and mountain lions to show up in this part of the country if we leave a dead elk in a remote spot overnight. Also, until these animals actually attack someone on a three wheeler then why are we even discussing this on here? Please make a note to self, Self if I am riding in this area I will forgo my riding gear and wear a shark suit as to not be eaten by a bear, wolf, or lion. Also, I would not recommend loading a deer or elk, or any other fresh kill on your back and going for a ride, as this might attract one of these predators. I know I am being insensitive to this, because if I lived there maybe I would be more concerned and maybe not ride in these areas. At any rate, any of you that live there and feel it is no longer safe to ride, I will gladly take your trikes and store them at my place til it is safe to go back in the woods.

[hang&rattle]

I never said anything about opening up hunting wolves, do you make that up in your mind? The trouble with liberal tree huggers is that they do not live here and are too stupid to know. The wolves were not interested in the food source, or they wouldn't have left the elk to fallow the gentlemen back to the trail head, can you understand they were stalking the men for a fun killing, not for food? And there are several hundred wolves in just the NW part of the state, too much in one area for the wildlife to substain it, can you understand that? (the reason they are feeding on cattle and sheep). And we have always had wolves here, never were extinct, not my fault you Oregonites killed all yours off, but if you did have wolves in your forest, your saying you wouldn't defend yourself if surrounded by 10-15 of them? This gray timber wolf was introduced from Yellowstone Park, and the small pack was introduced to the Fortine area. They have grown to several hundred in less than a decade, these are not the smaller native wolves they were 25 years ago. I would not take the chance of not shooting if I was riding with my kids and was surrounded by the lot of them. The article is there to show the mistake and mismanagment of the reintroduction of wildlife and dangers the mistake is making. And be careful, some members on here make their living by hunting, and several are hunters, tree-hugging environmentalists are frowned upon.

[thestud25]

I like hugging trees!! Especially when I am shimeming up them to shoot at woodland creatures!!!

[Bretmd94]

lol those god damn libby tree huggers!

Listen, I grew up in the woods. I have respect for the animals. As a kid i didn't have neighbors within a half mile. The animals are my neighbors. I'm not some extreme environmentalist, I ride trikes, street bikes, dirtbikes and quads for Christ sakes. We even let friends come hunt on our property.

You should be happy you can still even ride in that area where the wolves are. In Oregon they would close it off and call it a "wolf nesting area". ie much like the snowy plover being an excuse for the environmentalists to close off half the Oregon dunes.

[hang&rattle]

lol those god damn libby tree huggers!

Listen, I grew up in the woods. I have respect for the animals. As a kid i didn't have neighbors within a half mile. The animals are my neighbors. I'm not some extreme environmentalist, I ride trikes, street bikes, dirtbikes and quads for Christ sakes. We even let friends come hunt on our property.

You should be happy you can still even ride in that area where the wolves are. In Oregon they would close it off and call it a "wolf nesting area". ie much like the snowy plover being an excuse for the environmentalists to close off half the Oregon dunes.

You're right, that's kinda what I was getting at too. You are definately better at explainations than me, thanks.

[cattle-dog]

i am a good old country boy and love the woods where we are guest`s , first i bet the good old boys who were hunting were city boys or they would have been alot more careful. second what kind of idiot pops shots off the back of a horse? you wouldnt think they would be scared to death as the want to be countryboys were playing wild bill lol.
i have horses and mules so i understand them ,
i think they saw some wolves and started poping shots and told a huge storie to cover thier butts so they dont go to jail or be fined,
if a pack of wolves want you you are pretty much dinner. but 99% of the time they leave you alone,
i understand the livestock and them coming close to our homes as i am also a builder but remember we are moving into thier space not them into ours.
and i think i missed the section in the bible where god said man is better than all other living creatures.