!! 86-87 atc200x 85-86atc250r fullbore!!

[honda200x1987]

I just got another email from FULLBORE !!!!. They want to know how many members would be interested in the 1986-87 ATC200X REAR FENDER!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE RESPONDE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED!! They also have the ATC250R fender available in the TRX style FYE. How many people would like the 200X fender??????????????? Please respond! They may even do the front for the 200X!! They just need an idea of how many are interested here on this site and they would concider making a run. I am sure they will be more of a OEM fit and would have the cut out for the air filter box!! They would not have the embossed warning label I am sure but they will look very near OEM and fit other than that. You are not obligated to buy any , we are just wanting a number of how many would be interested in the future.

[Tri-Z 250]

A price point would be nice?? Guess it depends on interest and output....any idea?

[honda200x1987]

No price yet but should be abouut 200-250 and that would not be bad concidering the quality. Here is a picture of the OEM Honda and maier, Fullbore will have the cut outs and look very much like OEM and may even have a indention for the kick start rubber with holes cut out also!!, I will push them to do an oem look.. the Maier as you can see does not.
A price point would be nice?? Guess it depends on interest and output....any idea?

[haggard 2hundie]

i am in the market for a rear fender but price is an issue and im not overly concerned with an exact oem look but i do like the sound of them being pre cut , so i am deffinately interested, all i need is a tank and rear fender to finish my resto

[honda200x1987]

Yes precut and holes already made will make a an easy installation not to mention a much better fit. There have been many who say the Maier fender does not fit well and you have to make your owns screw holes. The way I look at it, you get a Maier that does not fit well and more work to install for 160 bucks and for 50 or more bucks you get a much better fender, well worth it I think.

[scottyms]

put me on the list for one of each....

scotty

[honda200x1987]

Sure scott, I will remind everyone when the headlight shells and the fenders are ready for order. but we need enough people interested in the fenders, please respond to this thread! I'm not sure how many they need.

[atc sam]

I am interested!!

[matt86200x]

Interested

[200x350xtriz250]

I'm confused - what is wrong with the Maier fenders? I have owned several sets of them for various bikes including the 86/87 200x and they fit just fine and look just fine - especially the new "shiny" ones. I have trimmed the rear fenders where they meet the gas tank - took about 5 minutes and you can't tell. The hole above the airbox in the OEM fenders serves NO purpose whatsoever - the seat, that is bolted on, covers that "hole." Replacement fenders are replacement fenders and are purchased by folks looking to rebuild and most likely ride thier bikes and I'll bet 90% of those folks will not spring for the additional $50 for a slightly nicer fender. I'm very interested in hearing someone explain how the Maier's did not fit well and where - personal experiences.

[Cuztom Racing]

Im in but tell fullbore there would be much more of a market for the 350x..

[haggard 2hundie]

i have a maier front fender that i had to drill holes for and it fits perfect as for the price i could have a new maier shipped from ebay for 200 $ or dennis kirk for a little more so i guess im on the fence

[honda200x1987]

I have personally seen those maier fenders and they do not have anywhere the shine as a new oem fender and fit, it is a pain for most people to have to drill cut to fit the fender. You should not have to do that. Besides Fullbore does a much better job with fitment. Maier could have done a better job but they won't take the time. The question is, why not let fullbore do this? it will not cost a dime for me or anyone to make them. they just want a number of interest to do it and they will be a much better fit color and shine than maier. The more repros are made the better anyway, maier may not make these fender for long, who knows. The first priority is the headlight shell, we just need a number of how many want the fender.
I'm confused - what is wrong with the Maier fenders? I have owned several sets of them for various bikes including the 86/87 200x and they fit just fine and look just fine - especially the new "shiny" ones. I have trimmed the rear fenders where they meet the gas tank - took about 5 minutes and you can't tell. The hole above the airbox in the OEM fenders serves NO purpose whatsoever - the seat, that is bolted on, covers that "hole." Replacement fenders are replacement fenders and are purchased by folks looking to rebuild and most likely ride thier bikes and I'll bet 90% of those folks will not spring for the additional $50 for a slightly nicer fender. I'm very interested in hearing someone explain how the Maier's did not fit well and where - personal experiences.

[NESC104]

Are they interested in doing 350X fenders? If I had a 200X I'd be all over these. It's nice having options, depending on your needs.

Are you having 200x fronts done?

[ATC704LIFE]

??are the 250r fenders made to look like the trx but fit the atc if so im down for a set or too of rears

[Cuztom Racing]

I have personally seen those maier fenders and they do not have anywhere the shine as a new oem fender and fit, it is a pain for most people to have to drill cut to fit the fender. You should not have to do that. Besides Fullbore does a much better job with fitment. Maier could have done a better job but they won't take the time. The question is, why not let fullbore do this? it will not cost a dime for me or anyone to make them. they just want a number of interest to do it and they will be a much better fit color and shine than maier. The more repros are made the better anyway, maier may not make these fender for long, who knows. The first priority is the headlight shell, we just need a number of how many want the fender.

I totally agree i would never buy maier crap. There nothing compared to OEM. I totally forgot about fullbore till you meantioned it. I just went to the fullbore website and emailed them saying that I thought they should produce plastic for the 1985-86 ATC 350x,250R and 200x. The market is definitly there since honda discontinued them years ago i dont know why fullbore dont do it.

[Dirtcrasher]

What confuses me is Brad paid for a mold and a certain number of pieces.

You've managed in a short time to reproduce the headlight and now maybe the rear/front fender for a 86/87 200X without any mold cost??

Your efforts are well recognized.

The Maier white isn't that bad but better is great! Keep up the good work and the smooth talking seems to be working; I have no idea why..................

[HondaHarry]

Tell them to do FULL SETS!! (Shrouds/Front Fenders/Headlight?/and their own rear or an OEM style) of plastic for the 85/86R and im in! I called them years ago and told them they would sell more of the ATC fenders if they offered the rest of the peices. Sounds like it fell on deaf ears. Cant see buying a rear unless it was an EXACT color match to the other items regardless of who made it. Nice they offer it. But I think it would be worth their while to complete the set.
Like mentioned above, Maier is good. But better is well... Better! HH

[honda200x1987]

Yes they have 85-86 ATC250R rear fenders in the TRX style FYI. You can contact fullbore at fullboreplastics@msn.com
??are the 250r fenders made to look like the trx but fit the atc if so im down for a set or too of rears

[honda200x1987]

Beleive me I was suprised they will be doing this at no cost for the mold. I think they have an idea that there might be some market for new better ATC plastics, espessially the 86 200X case, no one makes them. I am sure they will sell enough to cover costs and then some in the long run. I agree with the fenders, I think fullbore may be able to produce the brake cable guide for the front fender , we will see. This might take some time maybe a few months or more. The headlight case will be about a month ,can't wait to see it myself.
What confuses me is Brad paid for a mold and a certain number of pieces.

You've managed in a short time to reproduce the headlight and now maybe the rear/front fender for a 86/87 200X without any mold cost??

Your efforts are well recognized.

The Maier white isn't that bad but better is great! Keep up the good work and the smooth talking seems to be working; I have no idea why..................

[honda200x1987]

If anyone wants fullbore to make other plastics like the ATC250R ATC350X , you will first need a donor OEM Honda part so they can duplicate it. Then you need to see if there is a market for it but I think there is for these models myself. Still you might need some kind of number to give to fullbore to see how many are interested here on 3WW. Then send your donor part to them, that's what I have done. I think they would sell good on eBay also. Maybe everyone should email them asking for certain plastics. that might open their eyes to make even more plastics for the ATC's .The more of us who show interest in their product the better chance we can have more quality parts.
Tell them to do FULL SETS!! (Shrouds/Front Fenders/Headlight?/and their own rear or an OEM style) of plastic for the 85/86R and im in! I called them years ago and told them they would sell more of the ATC fenders if they offered the rest of the peices. Sounds like it fell on deaf ears. Cant see buying a rear unless it was an EXACT color match to the other items regardless of who made it. Nice they offer it. But I think it would be worth their while to complete the set.
Like mentioned above, Maier is good. But better is well... Better! HH

[250rs-neva-die]

hey this sounds great count me in for a set of rears ( front and headlight shell depending on cost) let me know thanks alot

[haggard 2hundie]

now im worried that the rea from fullbore wont match my front from maier ? either way it couldnt be that big of a difference could it ? count me in

[Mosh]

??are the 250r fenders made to look like the trx but fit the atc if so im down for a set or too of rears
Fullbore has always made that rear fender for the 85-86R..Yes it mimics the TRX rear fender.
You dont have to wait, You can call them today and order it.

What confuses me is Brad paid for a mold and a certain number of pieces.

You've managed in a short time to reproduce the headlight and now maybe the rear/front fender for a 86/87 200X without any mold cost??

Your efforts are well recognized.

The Maier white isn't that bad but better is great! Keep up the good work and the smooth talking seems to be working; I have no idea why..................

I am also confused as well.
We talked to them about Z plastics a few years ago and I would have had to front the mold cost as well..
I can only figure that the economy is so tight right now, that maybe they are willing to do almost anything to make a few bucks, even if that includes fronting the mold cost.

I like their plastic, but mixing colors between the 2 manufactures wont work unless you are talking red, white and black.They will be close with Maier..
The other colors probably will be quite different between the 2 companies.

Also, they told him that the headlight shell would have no rivets for the brackets..
This also is very interesting, until now, no-one has been able to make these headlight shells 1 piece without rivets or screws holding the headlight brackets on.
Maybe they found a way

[0GravityMX]

m down for a set of rears

[honda200x1987]

Some of you may be worried about having ribbets for the headlight mount that was injection molded into the headlight case, don't worry it will NOT have ribbets , the headlight shells will have a bright red color much to the liking of a brighter red , it will not be a dark Maier red color I promise you that and the white rear fender should match just fine with you Maier front fender and shrouds. We are taking this one step at a time. the headlight case first the rear next then the rear fender, I plan on having the CABLE GUIDE molded just like the original front fender for the 86 -87 200X but the fender maybe a little more expencive than the Maier, somewhere around 100 maybe less we hope. but it will have a better oem look to it. This can be done and will.

[Ironbnder]

I just got off the phone with Fullbore about the 86atc rear fenders. Here is what they say: They are $250 plus $75 shipping to me in La. Their red will not match any red. Their red is a red-gold pearl. They do ther own and do not try to match anyone. Also, they are considering doing the whole set so your front will match the back, and they are also considering a one piece tank cover/shroud set to cover old tanks. He said we would be looking at $600.00 for a front to back color change set. They are open to doing different molds now that the demand is comming back, as oem sets are dissapearing and people are not satisfied with Maier. The guy I talked to was super nice and knew of 3WW and appreciated all of us 3 wheeler guys.

[honda200x1987]

Supurb!! 600 BUCKS is not bad concidering you get all the plastic! They may need some good used Donors to make replicas of any ATC part , 85-86 atc250r 350X etc.
I just got off the phone with Fullbore about the 86atc rear fenders. Here is what they say: They are $250 plus $75 shipping to me in La. Their red will not match any red. Their red is a red-gold pearl. They do ther own and do not try to match anyone. Also, they are considering doing the whole set so your front will match the back, and they are also considering a one piece tank cover/shroud set to cover old tanks. He said we would be looking at $600.00 for a front to back color change set. They are open to doing different molds now that the demand is comming back, as oem sets are dissapearing and people are not satisfied with Maier. The guy I talked to was super nice and knew of 3WW and appreciated all of us 3 wheeler guys.

[Cuztom Racing]

The tank covers is nice and all but why cant they just make front and back fenders and shrouds to match??

[Dirtcrasher]

I'm very glad that you've put forward so much effort. I've said it before and will again, the tank shrouds we have available now for the 86/87 reproduced, fit and finish are spot on for guys just looking for shrouds.

Honestly, I'd never want a tank cover on a metal tank. Pull em out, bondo them up and paint them.

The matching fenders I'm down with but I honestly think all OEM copies are too much, you have to break up the colors somewhere.

600$ from 3WW members is like me being a porn star.................

[dma550]

AGreed, $600 for a person doing a full garage queen resto, is good. My trike will be a daily driver & thrasher (we don't go around things in the woods) so I can't justify spending that on something that will get scratched up in less than a year.

[honda200x1987]

Sorry I HAVE TO DISAGREE you guys on your comment, 600 bucks for a better and brighter color red for a full set that is better quality ready to bolt on, ..I f you buy a full set from maier,, maybe be saving 150 bucks or so, maybe and have to drill your own holes hoping you measured right ,cut shave,, Come on guys.. I have seen Maier's plastic, grant it they may be tuff but are butt ugly in the brick red color and fitment is not all that great, . Cough up a couple more bucks are you have Nice looking machine with plastic that will stand up to Maier. I am all for new plastics, maybe paying the same as original oem prices but not all that high if you ask me. I am not trying to argue here but I think all new ATC250R plastics would be a supurb accomplishment and many will agree.

[Dirtcrasher]

I rebuilt EVERY part on my 86/87 200X. I beat the ever living snot out of it. I am NOT a restorer. I am someone who gets stuff mechanically up to date and then rides it. Branches , rocks, smashing into my friends does not bother me. I RIDE!!

I don't look at my plastic, I don't look at the tank; I don't want cracks or rips in the seat but I can't make a 25yo trike that I ride perfect. It comes out dirty and goes back in dirty. I'd rather dump money on motor/carb/exhaust mods then worry about perfection.

You my friend I admire and respect, I've seen your vids, seen your restores and they are all fine and dandy but I don't want a conversational piece, I want "look at that nut on a three wheeler!!"

Plastic or whatever, the demise of trikes is coming. Simple small seemingly insignificant parts will be discontinued. Then what? Pretty plastic but I can't ride it?

Again, I admire your enthusiasm but sooner or later if were true trike riders, were gonna need to build hybrids with available parts. Then those will dry up and we'll do it again........

Mind you all, these are my thoughts and doesn't mean I don't want 600$ in plastic. Someday I may but for now the Maiers are fine and I couldn't care less if my front brake line goes thru my fender. As long as it doesn't get bunched up, were good...............

[honda200x1987]

Dirtcrasher for you I will make an acception on the maiers and we are fortunate that they do make plastics or we would have not many replacement parts right now, you do ride hard and balls to the wall from what I know of ya.lol. but there are alot of us that want this and I think the ATC is here to stay for a long time. One last note I have great respect for you dirtcrasher, you have alot of knowlege in the ATC community also.
I rebuilt EVERY part on my 86/87 200X. I beat the ever living snot out of it. I am NOT a restorer. I am someone who gets stuff mechanically up to date and then rides it. Branches , rocks, smashing into my friends does not bother me. I RIDE!!

I don't look at my plastic, I don't look at the tank; I don't want cracks or rips in the seat but I can't make a 25yo trike that I ride perfect. It comes out dirty and goes back in dirty. I'd rather dump money on motor/carb/exhaust mods then worry about perfection.

You my friend I admire and respect, I've seen your vids, seen your restores and they are all fine and dandy but I don't want a conversational piece, I want "look at that nut on a three wheeler!!"

Plastic or whatever, the demise of trikes is coming. Simple small seemingly insignificant parts will be discontinued. Then what? Pretty plastic but I can't ride it?

Again, I admire your enthusiasm but sooner or later if were true trike riders, were gonna need to build hybrids with available parts. Then those will dry up and we'll do it again........

Mind you all, these are my thoughts and doesn't mean I don't want 600$ in plastic. Someday I may but for now the Maiers are fine and I couldn't care less if my front brake line goes thru my fender. As long as it doesn't get bunched up, were good...............

[350Kris]

So where can I get 86 200X tank shrouds? Are the headlight shells out yet?

[devilman]

So where can I get 86 200X tank shrouds? Are the headlight shells out yet?

read the signature in the post above yours, he's got them

[Dirtcrasher]

Lets hope we don't piss anyone off who's holding onto 12 OEM headlight shells in hopes of 500$ a pop :lol: seen that before.......

[honda200x1987]

200x350xtriz250 has the 86-87 200x tank shroud repros and they are on the spot match, I think you can get them in any color you want. As for the headlight shells it will take some time , they will be working on them starting this week.
So where can I get 86 200X tank shrouds? Are the headlight shells out yet?

[Dirtcrasher]

The shrouds he has are excellant, I have 3 or 4 sets.

Oh yeah, and enough parts to build 4 more 86/87 200X's :lol:

[NINJA]

Why do people keep saying the new maier fenders have to be drilled? We sell a couple sets of them a week and I've yet to see them needing the holes drilled out. And yes, their shiny plastic is very nice.

[Dirtcrasher]

^ I had some ols sets that were dull and had to be drilled, but every set I've bought for quite a few years needed no drilling. Their products may not have all the bells and whistles but they work for me.

If I get working again and have the $$, I'd grab a set of matching stuff for another build, but white is pretty much white :lol:

Thats why I have a red CLARKE tank on my 87 250SX and white front and rear plastic from Maier, it breaks it up and I'm happl with it. I actually got the "dull" blem fender for 70$ maybe 8 years ago or so; Of course it runs a 350X headlight, all my trikes do :D

Hope your well NINJA!! I gotta catch up w/ ya soon! :)

[Ironbnder]

To clear up a few questions from above. They are talking about making the tank cover/shroud piece for the 85/86 R only as this tank is plastic and cannot be easily painted. The reason they will not make shrouds, fenders and headlights to match the oem red is that they don't want to or can't get the raw material. He told me they buy 5000 lbs of plastic material at a time and their color is the red/gold pearl. He had no interest or discussion on matching oem colors. I did not discuss any other colors with him.

I called the number on the web site and talked to a super nice, and very knowledgable guy. Anyone here can do the same and if enough call and ask about the same thing, then they probably would make it. He was very inquizitive about what I thought people would buy if they made it. I was only interested in 86R parts and I have all new oem except rear fenders so I am in a bind.

[honda200x1987]

I just want to keep everyone updated, the 1986-87 ATC200X headlight bezels should be ready in 2-3 weeks, FULLBORE is working on the tooling as we speak. I just got an email from Grant and he will keep me posted on this, I am very interested on how these turn out.

[drsung]

I am interested in the headlight bezel and a set of rears for an '87 X.

[Nightmare]

I would be interested in the ful bore plastics. My stock 86 200x rear fenders have no cracks, just a bad stain on the lower left side because the previous owner let the leaky tank drip gas on the fender which discolored the plastic.

[honda200x1987]

Fullbore would do the front and rear fenders for the 1986- 1987 ATC200X models but we need to have enough interested but so far there has been only 10 people asking on this thread. We need atleast 30 people interested to get it going, we have had alot of interest in the headlight bezel though.
I am interested in the headlight bezel and a set of rears for an '87 X.

[0GravityMX]

like i pm'd you. what about tank scoops?

[honda200x1987]

Contact 200x350xtriz250 , his name is Brad , he is a member on here
like i pm'd you. what about tank scoops?

and sells the 1986-87 ATC200X fuel tank shrouds. They are a on the spot match to the OEM HONDA shrouds, very nice! He also has a ebay account here:: http://search.myworld.ebay.com/sell/New-1986-or-1987-Honda-ATC-200x-shrouds

[honda200x1987]

Here are the shrouds in Brads profile, he sells them at a very reasonable price and they are a on the spot match to the OEM HONDA shrouds,,very nice. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/album.php?albumid=249

[NESC104]

Im in for a 200X front fender if it will help FULLBORE keep an interest in trikes. I think the 86-87 200X front is the best looking front fender. Just thinking out loud. I'm still hoping that they will make a 350X rear.

[honda200x1987]

As for now the headlight bezel for the 86-87 200X is in the table. I would say if they sell enough of the bezels then that would strike interest in Fullbore to make more ATC parts. They have already asked how many are interested in the 200X fenders. Maybe I need to start a thread for a poll on how many would be interested in a 86-87 front with a cable guide like the original.
Im in for a 200X front fender if it will help FULLBORE keep an interest in trikes. I think the 86-87 200X front is the best looking front fender. Just thinking out loud. I'm still hoping that they will make a 350X rear.

[200x350xtriz250]

Here are the shrouds in Brads profile, he sells them at a very reasonable price and they are a on the spot match to the OEM HONDA shrouds,,very nice. http://www.3wheelerworld.com/album.php?albumid=249

Thanx for the kind words. Can't wait to get my headlight shell!

[200x350xtriz250]

Any update on the headlight shells?

[tundrawillie]

I'm in for the ATC250R rear (TRX style). Is it 450R or 87-89 250R style?

I have new OEM fenders, but no riding with them.

[honda200x1987]

Contact Fullbore and order yourself a set of rear fenders, they are the 80's style TRX250R and fit the ATC250R.
I'm in for the ATC250R rear (TRX style). Is it 450R or 87-89 250R style?

I have new OEM fenders, but no riding with them.

[honda200x1987]

I haven't heard any news from Fullbore in just over 2 weeks but I am sure I will any day . Grant from Fullbore sent me an e-mail on september 8th stating he would keep in touch in a couple weeks. I am sending another e-mail tonight to find out and I will let you guys know what they say by tomorrow nite. My guess is the tooling is done for the mold and they are getting ready for reproduction.
Any update on the headlight shells?

[Xander]

Did they ever get back to you about these things?

[NOS_350X]

I think your price is a little off for fullbores they are typically a lil more expensive than that.

[Tri-Z 250]

$600 x 30 = Wow! Thats alot of interest.

[honda3]

i would be interested

[honda200x1987]

Sorry ,nothing ever came from this but Fullbore was committed to reproducing the 1986-87 200X headlight shells . Grant told me he would need 50 orders at $70 each to get it done . There is No doubt they would make them but 50 orders would have to be placed to Fullbore. Maybe if everyone interested ordered 1 or more then this might happen. We had a lot of interest but very few paid upfront , that was the problem. I would have to pay $3500 up front to have them made, I really don't have that kind of dough to gamble with. I do wonder how Maier reproduced the 1986 250R,maybe they thought there would be enough interest? They must have done this on their own unless someone paid to have these made?

[TheBlueWale]

Sorry ,nothing ever came from this but Fullbore was committed to reproducing the 1986-87 200X headlight shells . Grant told me he would need 50 orders at $70 each to get it done . There is No doubt they would make them but 50 orders would have to be placed to Fullbore. Maybe if everyone interested ordered 1 or more then this might happen. We had a lot of interest but very few paid upfront , that was the problem. I would have to pay $3500 up front to have them made, I really don't have that kind of dough to gamble with. I do wonder how Maier reproduced the 1986 250R,maybe they thought there would be enough interest? They must have done this on their own unless someone paid to have these made?

It's probably because it went discontinued/NLA about a year ago and that was a good opportunity/reason for maier to make it.

[stroberts22]

From what I understand you can't even get trx 250r fenders from full bore. That looks like that would be a cash cow because trx guys spend the money.

[bad to the bone]

any news on fullbore making them?