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whiteR
08-08-2010, 08:12 PM
will a 84-85 tecate 3 stator work on the 86-87 tecate 3

TheBlueWale
08-09-2010, 10:38 PM
From what I have heard that stator and possibly the magneto is the same for the 1984-7 T3 as well as the 1987-8 T4, I have also heard that you can substitue the kx magneto and stator(I'm unsure of what years but probably the 86 kx 250, and i'm not sure if the T3's cdi and electrics will work with the kx's) Also, the kx's electric system will sacrifice any possibility of having lights.
Hope it helps. However, if you have the parts already then it's worth a try.

Vootie
08-10-2010, 06:05 PM
Yes, all year tecate's (3 and 4) use the same stator. If you use a KX stator, you need all the the electronics from the KX (stator, cdi, wiring...)

Tecate 50
08-10-2010, 06:58 PM
83-86 KX250 only.....have to have the complete system!

cr480r
08-10-2010, 11:02 PM
83-86 KX250 only.....have to have the complete system!

any reason why a newer kx setup wouldnt work?

Tecate 50
08-10-2010, 11:25 PM
any reason why a newer kx setup wouldnt work?

Bore X Stroke and a completely different engine after 86, other than that I cant think of anything! Might be worth looking into, but I would think the flywheel, stator, and cdi are different!

cr480r
08-12-2010, 01:59 AM
Bore X Stroke and a completely different engine after 86, other than that I cant think of anything! Might be worth looking into, but I would think the flywheel, stator, and cdi are different!

so you havent tried it?


83-86 KX250 only.....have to have the complete system!

Tecate 50
08-12-2010, 04:14 PM
The only kx250 stuff I have, and all my buddies have used are from 83-86! I have since went with a PVL set up due to not finding OEM stators any longer at a decent price! The after market stators are junk IMO!

nd4speed
08-12-2010, 06:12 PM
I opened the discussion in my Tecate what parts interchange swap thread about how many many complete electrical systems could be made to work on the T3 motors.

I posted a link to KX 500 hill climbers that put KX 125 electrical on their 500 motors. There's a little bore and stroke difference example.

Is it gonna have a different spark curve. I bet. But is it gonna blow your motor up or run like poop. I doubt it.

I just tried to open the discussion, I'm no expert on the subject.

99gsxr750
08-12-2010, 08:19 PM
I opened the discussion in my Tecate what parts interchange swap thread about how many many complete electrical systems could be made to work on the T3 motors.

I posted a link to KX 500 hill climbers that put KX 125 electrical on their 500 motors. There's a little bore and stroke difference example.

Is it gonna have a different spark curve. I bet. But is it gonna blow your motor up or run like poop. I doubt it.

I just tried to open the discussion, I'm no expert on the subject.

But since you are an expert when it comes to the differences between the T-3 and KX250, is there any benefit of using a KX250 carb? I recently figured out the carb on my T-3 is from a KX250 (probably still with the KX jets). Might explain why my T-3 runs rich.

cr480r
08-12-2010, 10:48 PM
i have enough parts to check the mechanical interchange(at least through the nineties). just have never got around to it 50.. and I agree nd4spd.. i think bore and stroke is of little concern with ignition... especially when the engines are of similiar displacement... banshee guys put strokers in all the time and use the same ignition.. and 250r guys use CR digital ignitions that are 20 years newer... the trouble i see is with how many different cdi's kawi offered.. how does a guy find out how the ignition curves vary from box to box? anybody know where to find these specs? cause i know some produce harder hitting power than others, and some years rev better others.. even with the same pipe and jug

Tecate 50
08-12-2010, 11:36 PM
i have enough parts to check the mechanical interchange(at least through the nineties). just have never got around to it 50.. and I agree nd4spd.. i think bore and stroke is of little concern with ignition... especially when the engines are of similiar displacement... banshee guys put strokers in all the time and use the same ignition.. and 250r guys use CR digital ignitions that are 20 years newer... the trouble i see is with how many different cdi's kawi offered.. how does a guy find out how the ignition curves vary from box to box? anybody know where to find these specs? cause i know some produce harder hitting power than others, and some years rev better others.. even with the same pipe and jug

This is only my opinion but I would think the major concerns would the timing curves of the CDI would vary, and Kawasaki made numerous types of flywheels and stators, so mounting it to just any crank may not work in conjunction with the different Kawasaki cases! I do know that the KX set up as far as the CDI goes is more aggressive that the kxt250!

cr480r
08-13-2010, 05:03 AM
and Kawasaki made numerous types of flywheels and stators, so mounting it to just any crank may not work in conjunction with the different Kawasaki cases!

not a problem there.. if t3 stuff intechanges with t4 stuff.. then the t3 stuff should also interchange with kx stuff newer than 87 which is typically interchangable most likely til 2004... what i dont know is if there is anything to be gained with a newer system.. wish I find a source for the timing specs for each year

nd4speed
08-13-2010, 02:09 PM
In my thread I proposed this theory. The 1989-2004 KX500 owners would use the 1986 KX500 flywheel (and stator and CDI?) to get quicker revs because it is lighter and smaller. The 1986 KX500 stator and flywheel are same as 1986 KX250. So KX500 flywheel and stator 1989-2004 should bolt onto all years Tecate. Need a stator but want OEM not Ricky or Rick's- try 2004 KX500 parts. I guess my question is does the flywheel fit in the stator cover? I have the parts but have not had a need to investigate.

As far as the carb, the stock carb was probably 34mm vs a 38-39mm for a KX250. The larger KX carb is more for high rev operation and will produce less torque. The 34mm carb is for lower speed and more torque (like the larger flywheel) to compensate for gearing, tire size, weight, porting, type of use, ect.......

Usually 4 wheelers are ported less aggressively have 34mm carbs and larger flywheels. It's an engineering design. A larger carb than stock is a must for a ported motor with aggressive spark.

nd4speed
08-13-2010, 02:13 PM
None of my Kawasakis ever came with a stock carb, they were all or now have 38-39mm carbs