'86 250r

[Trble]

Found a 86 250R started going through it and noticed the clutch rod that the cable hooks to (clutch lever rod or something forgot) just goes forwards and backwards easily and the spring is missing is it hard to install a new spring or better yet find one? And it feels as if it doesnt disengage the clutch i can shift into gear and moving the arm seems to absolutely nothing (like it isnt actually touching anything period) you could just practicly slap it around like it was a hanging necklace or something any ideas? :(

[Trble]

Lol by the way anyone need any trx 400 or something i think that was the rear fenders and the seat that was on it when i got it

Now I have to find rear fender front fender and seat for it have shrouds yay me

[jadamek02]

Just curious, did you buy this from Beaumont, TX?

[Trble]

Yes I did was worth it the frame and swingarm arm are in pretty good shape but someone thought it wise to paint the motor with no high temp paint black, the motor has good comp but still have to figure clutch issue have motor out of frame now gonna bead blast it? Or anyone know another easier way to get this crummy paint off? The finish underneath it looks pretty good cant figure why they would do something like this? Some of the things pple do just amazes me sometimes.

[jcorkin]

my 86 motor did the same thing, the rod actually pulled up, you have to remove the clutch and something else inorder to release the part that the rod pushes on so it can slide back into place, dont know if that makes any sense to you, but on mine i was able to pull the linkage rod all the way out.

[Trble]

My rod goes up and down just not all of the way, and when you move the rod you can feel it kind of make a small clank noise on the clutch basket as if something isnt engaging or moving.

[ceaserthethird]

Hit up Cheapcycleparts.com for part's.

First find out what you need and inspect, Than Place the order.

Don't forget, tune up parts Plug's & Air Filter

[Trble]

OK tore it apart and clutch and basket and all look brand new as if just changed, if I post pics would that help out any?

[Mosh]

Yeah post some pics.
It sounds like someone did some clutch work and forgot to put the ball bearing in the pushrod assembly on the pressure plate side of the clucth.
Go to www.servicehonda.com and input your model and year,and look at the clutch parts schematic and see if any of the parts are missing.
Also pay special attention to the small bearing in the case where the push lever goes in. There should be needle bearings in there, and in good free shape.
There could be a chunk of metal or dirt in the case under that arm, stopping it from dropping in all the way too.

[Trble]

Its all in there i think they had the cap on the outside lip of the clutch and if i remember right it goes to the inside of it right?

[Trble]

I really need the spring for the actuator arm or a whole arm with the spring, guess imma have to go looking through flea bay for one.

[Trble]

Here are a few of the pics http://s937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/Drkwlf63/250R%20pics/ just added a few more, some better shots

[Mosh]

Part number 10 goes on the back side of the outside pressure plate part # 8. Make sure that ball bearing is sitting in part number 10 also.

http://fiche.worldofpowersports.com/wps/Honda_OEM/HondaATV.asp?Type=13&A=22&B=6
As far as the clutch arm and spring, those may still be available new from OEM or that website I posted or service honda, or your dealer...They may be discontinued too.

If so, stay patient..Someone will have the stuff you need.
Also EBAY would be good for getting it now if you can find one..And keep in mind, the 86-89 R engine all used the same parts for the clutch arm and spring.

Check with "Cycleguy1979" on ebay...
He is in Arizona and is always parting out really nice R stuff. He may have what you need.

[Trble]

K thanks and yeah I noticed the difference in the arms from the earlier R's to the later model R's the ends of the arms that ride on the rod are different correct? Noticed mine is missing a clip that sits by the little cap and the rod? Hmm more investigation needed i assume?

[Dirtcrasher]

The ball always gets left out :lol:

The 89 250R clutch update kit is wonderful!

[Mosh]

The push rod, and bearing set-up, and all that jazz was updated for the 89 quad only.
From what I gather, it is the supeior set-up. And number 12 in that parts schematic is probably part of the update kit..There is also a hub or something in that updated pushrod kit.
It is critical you identify, what pushrod set-up you have either the 86 stock, or the 89 update kit. If you need any of those pushrod parts, they have to fit what set-up you have.(someone could have updated the 86 rod kit to the 89 in the past.) You need to be sure.
Judging from the pics you posted, it looks like you have the stock 86 set-up.
However, the Arm and spring that go in the case and push on the pushrod, should all be the same part number for all the 250R engines 85-89.


EDIT..Just checked you new pics you uploaded.
Someone was definately in there really recent. Can tell by the new gasket.
looks like you are missing the seal for the clutch arm too.

You basket has some wicked plate gouges in it that need filed down smooth, or replace the basket with a aftermarket one.

You appear to be on the right track..Study those parts schematics and you will get it done.. A repair manual would be a good investment now too.

[Trble]

Ok thanks for the help will have to a lot of reading and comparing to follow up on what someone did not do or did not do right and figure it out!

[Mosh]

No problem..Keep us posted with your progress. Looks like you have a nice machine to work with.

[Trble]

Have the manual and posted a thread showing how I do my manuals, just got through doing my 250R manual the same way, makes life easier and if they are laminated while they are in the shop for you the pages last longer, can just wipe them off of the grease and oil =)

[Dirtcrasher]

The push rod, and bearing set-up, and all that jazz was updated for the 89 quad only.
From what I gather, it is the supeior set-up. And number 12 in that parts schematic is probably part of the update kit..There is also a hub or something in that updated pushrod kit.
It is critical you identify, what pushrod set-up you have either the 86 stock, or the 89 update kit. If you need any of those pushrod parts, they have to fit what set-up you have.(someone could have updated the 86 rod kit to the 89 in the past.) You need to be sure.
Judging from the pics you posted, it looks like you have the stock 86 set-up.
However, the Arm and spring that go in the case and push on the pushrod, should all be the same part number for all the 250R engines 85-89.


EDIT..Just checked you new pics you uploaded.
Someone was definately in there really recent. Can tell by the new gasket.
looks like you are missing the seal for the clutch arm too.

You basket has some wicked plate gouges in it that need filed down smooth, or replace the basket with a aftermarket one.

You appear to be on the right track..Study those parts schematics and you will get it done.. A repair manual would be a good investment now too.

I put the whole 89 update kit in my 85 250R and DEEPA's 85 250R so I'm not sure what issues you've encountered in that kit.

It gives a much smoother and less notchy feel...............

[Mosh]

I put the whole 89 update kit in my 85 250R and DEEPA's 85 250R so I'm not sure what issues you've encountered in that kit.

It gives a much smoother and less notchy feel...............
Never said I had issues. Just stated I hear it is a superior set-up..
Never ran one myself...Never had to.