Project ATC 110 All tricked out ! Video !!!!

[shortline10]

Been thinking about this project for a while and now it's time to start putting it together . Its a 1979 atc110 motor that has a 61mm stroker and a 55mm piston . I'm gonna go threw the motor completely and also do some upgrading as I go . Sl90 tranny conversion with a cut out high/low motor cover . SL90 manual clutch conversion . I have a few front ends and not sure what I'm gonna use yet , maybe the Rutt Ryder or a PCCC kit .

[motoman1012002]

same thing Im wanting to do now same frame I have any everything cant find on of them darn 90 motor's though I there one motor that was done just like that back in the day sitting under a work bench

[shortline10]

same thing Im wanting to do now same frame I have any everything cant find on of them darn 90 motor's though I there one motor that was done just like that back in the day sitting under a work bench

Possibly :naughty: LOL . If you got the $ I got a 90 race motor :D.

[bandito90]

I'll be watching the progress.

[atctim]

I'll be watching this thread like a hawk as well - you have the coolest builds shortline!

[RodKnockRacing]

I'll be watching this thread like a hawk as well - you have the coolest builds shortline!

i second that

[BIGREDGUY]

Ya i bet it will turn out pretty sweet!

[Mr_RPM]

shortline, sometimes i wonder how much stuff you actually have, probably a whole warehouse full lol. well 110 builds are my favorite for obvious reasons and ill we watching your progress, i cant wait till i do my build.

[lardog]

Nice bandito frame,and motor parts , can't wait to see this one finished....

[shortline10]

I scored a New Old Stock 1969 SL90 clutch cover for the build , Very hard to find part considering it was only made for 1 year only and its a 41 year old part LOL . Hope to get a little done this week end on the motor .

[tri-Z ripper]

Something wicked is being built i can sense it! lol:

[Dirtcrasher]

I can't stand it anymore....... SHORTLINE: Has to be one smart MO-FO to have saved all these parts all these years!! I'm really feeling ill.........................

This will be so awesome - what better words describe it....

Yet you still mow the lawn, trim the hedges take care of the lawn......????? I'm lost......

[Autophysn]

can't wait to see the final product

[swifty]

did you just score that frame on ebay? thought one just like it sold few weeks ago. got any idea what brand frame i got on my trike in my profile pic? never seen another like it?

[shortline10]

did you just score that frame on ebay? thought one just like it sold few weeks ago. got any idea what brand frame i got on my trike in my profile pic? never seen another like it?

Post some better pics of your frame , From the pic you have it looks like a dickson / joker frame but I need to see the back side of the frame to be sure .

Most of these parts were collected over many years but I do keep a look out for the rare stuff .

[shortline10]

I can't stand it anymore....... SHORTLINE: Has to be one smart MO-FO to have saved all these parts all these years!! I'm really feeling ill.........................

This will be so awesome - what better words describe it....

Yet you still mow the lawn, trim the hedges take care of the lawn......????? I'm lost......

You crack me up DC . I'm sure your sitting on a pile of goodies to :lol:.

[shortline10]

Got a chance this morning before the kids and wife woke up to tear the motor apart . Found lots of previous owner build mistakes but nothing terrible . Nice very usable 55mm pop up piston , old school PK racing cam shaft , very nicely ported head , correctly turned down oil pump shaft for stroker application , Nicely signed Helm & Son 61.5 stroker with nice and tight bearings still .

[squirrel1182]

nice build ill be watchin it also.

[shortline10]

Got the center cases cleaned up and started putting it back together . Installed the sl90 tranny shaft so no more high /low set up , this also requires a special tranny seal 20 x 37 x 7 , the stock atc110 and sl90 seal doesnt work . Gonna use a NOS set allen bolts as an upgrade also . Next step is to tackle the clutch side .

[bigworm626]

Shortline10: your like Charles Bronson in his movie "Mr. Majestic" your a smooth opertor brotha. Like someone said, your a bad MO-FO in a good way of course.

[motoman1012002]

Ive gotta find a a sl90 motor

[shortline10]

Installed the mod shifter shaft , clutch with new plates and NOS clutch cover today . Used a 26mm freeze plug with a little epoxy to cover up the kicker shaft hole in the clutch cover . Coming along very nicely . Tomorrow I might tackle the top end .

[Shorty]

Shortline the next time when I visit my uncle in South Florida I'm gonna haft to drop off my 200x and my atc 110 at your house so you can mod and over haul them. LOL.

[atctim]

Hey Shortline - what do you use to degrease / clean the old cases - they look pretty good.

[shortline10]

Hey Shortline - what do you use to degrease / clean the old cases - they look pretty good.

Tim ,
The secrete is a soft brass brush and any type of degreaser works . I like formula 88 or for the really tuff stuff just plain old gunk .

[Dirtcrasher]

I'm surprised you didn't pull the head studs/dowels and run a nice stone over the base gasket area before assembly? Regardless, fantastic work but "par for the course" for you SL!! :D

Whats with your comment about the oil pump being correctly turned down for a stroker? Seemed like the way you worded it that it doesn't "have" to be done but it's the right way to do it. Whats the deal on that? I'm just curious......

Is that your kid helping you out? Projects like this are certainly one way to keep kids out of trouble :beer

Awesome progress! I wish you had some "Big Al's" for the 86/87 200X. Thats the machine I still need to give you a call about sometime, just wanna pick your brain!; Which reminds me that when my PC went KAPUTSKI, I lost your email and phone number. Hit me up again if you could please :) My email addy is in my sig............

[motoman1012002]

this bike is gonna ture out really nice

[shortline10]

I guess I should have taken pics of the oil pump shaft LOL . The stroker crank causes clearance issues from the rod being so far out on the cranks turning radius which causes it to interfere with the oil pump shaft . The back side of the connecting rod sticks out farther than the crank itself thus trimming the oil pump shaft a few MM's is needed on the big strokers . I believe the 58mm and smaller strokers their is no trimming needed.
Will send you my info again .






I'm surprised you didn't pull the head studs/dowels and run a nice stone over the base gasket area before assembly? Regardless, fantastic work but "par for the course" for you SL!! :D

Whats with your comment about the oil pump being correctly turned down for a stroker? Seemed like the way you worded it that it doesn't "have" to be done but it's the right way to do it. Whats the deal on that? I'm just curious......

Is that your kid helping you out? Projects like this are certainly one way to keep kids out of trouble :beer

Awesome progress! I wish you had some "Big Al's" for the 86/87 200X. Thats the machine I still need to give you a call about sometime, just wanna pick your brain!; Which reminds me that when my PC went KAPUTSKI, I lost your email and phone number. Hit me up again if you could please :) My email addy is in my sig............

[shortline10]

[QUOTE=Is that your kid helping you out? Projects like this are certainly one way to keep kids out of trouble [/QUOTE]

Yep thats my oldest brat age 7 just upgraded her to a atc110 over the weekend and she did great on it so the trizinger is gonna sit till my 3 year old boy is old enought to ride it .

[Dirtcrasher]

IDK if I said it, but if you have trouble getting that odd rubber coated seal, give me a yell! And thank you for your info again :beer

[honda250sx]

Mike - Can you break out EXACTLY what is needed for this conversion...? I have some BUYING to do. This is what I want for my motor.

[shortline10]

Mike - Can you break out EXACTLY what is needed for this conversion...? I have some BUYING to do. This is what I want for my motor.

For the tranny conversion all you need is a sl90 tranny shaft + sprocket and a new custom 20x37mm shaft seal which I purchased mine from a local store called Florida bearing , all the atc tranny gears work on the sl shaft .

The sl90 clutch conversion is a 1969 sl90 complete clutch set up , you will need all the internal parts to do the conversion . You will have to cut your atc90 or 110 shifter shaft flush with the inner cover as it doesnt need the extera length for the auto setup anymore .

If you need anymore details let me know .

[shortline10]

Here ya go DC . Pics of the oil pump shaft trimmed for a stroker application .

[motoman1012002]

look at what I just scored Hum theres a part number to im gonna call the local honda shop tomorrow and see if they can still get the part you never know
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230258197443&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

[greenhuman]

You want to be careful. There was a couple of different shafts from back in the day and one didn't work out.

[shortline10]

You want to be careful. There was a couple of different shafts from back in the day and one didn't work out.

Very interesting , I havnt run into that problem yet . Thanks for the info .

[shortline10]

Had a little bump in the road . I went to hone the cylinder and it had a few to many pits so it's bored out to 56mm now . Instead of the pk cam I'm going with a #93 grind Kenny Harmon roller bearing cam which has a little more lift and alot more duration than the PK cam .

[Shorty]

Cool would ever think of selling this bike? And how many cc's is this going to put out?

[shortline10]

Cool would ever think of selling this bike? And how many cc's is this going to put out?

Everything has its price LOL:lol: . 56mm bore X 61.5mm stroke = 151cc :twisted:

[shortline10]

Got the motor pretty much completed just need a new set of points and polish up the cover . Going threw my recoils and found a Bandito brand one in chrome so I gave it a rebuild , it should complement the bandito frame nicely . The cut out hi/low cover went on with no problems . I purchased this custom cover from Tommy Gaian a few years ago and finally got a chance to use it .

[HondaHarry]

Right On! So the worlds coolest 110, just got cooler. The temp just dropped a couple degrees in florida! Youre gonna prove Al Gore right if you keep it up! HH

[shortline10]

Right On! So the worlds coolest 110, just got cooler. The temp just dropped a couple degrees in florida! Youre gonna prove Al Gore right if you keep it up! HH

Thanks HH ,

[shortline10]

Added all the final touches to the motor this morning . BAPP shorty intake , 24mm Mikuni race carb , Vented dipstick , NOS shifter , exhaust studs , Installed the points cover but still need new points , On order .
I guess its time to put it in the frame and see if it Runs LOL :lol: .

[Mr_RPM]

looks awesome, its nice to see someone else go with a 56mm piston, im not the only one lol let me know how it holds up once you take it out for a while. i cant wait for mine, this wait is killing me, 3ish more months and i can start. lol and ill be sure to get to you about some parts as we talked about before. i cant wait to see it all done shortline, this thing is sweet

[motoman1012002]

I found a sl 90 clutch cover all i need now is a clutch pack and im going mannul

[shortline10]

I found a sl 90 clutch cover all i need now is a clutch pack and im going mannul

Congrats on the find Dan . Got a pic you can post ?

Just by chance I was doing some browsing on the net this morning and found another sl90 manual set up so I have enough to do another trike . Still need new plates and an cable but those are very easy to get .

[shortline10]

Installed the motor in the frame .

[motoman1012002]

Yeah i delete it from my email but when it get here ill get a pic up bike looking good in the pics

[TexFest]

that's coming along nicely

is it any harder to pull the rope with a high compression piston?

[shortline10]

that's coming along nicely

is it any harder to pull the rope with a high compression piston?

Yes its a bit harder to pull start and if your afraid of it you might want to wear a sports cup LOL .

[RodKnockRacing]

Mike your work just blows me away awesome job

[Vealmonkey]

Are you using steel recoil cables? No wonder I can't find any sl90 stuff lately. LOL

[motoman1012002]

Im still on a search for the clutch basket i bought a s90 cover to with the quiick change got it cheap so it looks like were gonna tray and see if it works too

[bigworm626]

Mike, you da man, the man god dammit! nice work!

[shortline10]

Are you using steel recoil cables? No wonder I can't find any sl90 stuff lately. LOL

I've got one trike with the steel recoil cable but I don't think this motor needs one , but we shall see and if I get the burse in the upper leg I'll know I need it LOL .

[motoman1012002]

its looking good

[shortline10]

its looking good

Thanks , Just waiting on a few parts . Dug out the brake drum and it was total garbage so I had to order one so I'm kinda at a stand still till I get a few more parts .

[motoman1012002]

so who ealse was bidding on the sl90 motor that was on ebay i ended up winning it good thing I have a cousin about 30 mins from him hes gonna pick the motor up and bring it to me this summer, Looks Like I got parts for 2 conv's now

[shortline10]

so who ealse was bidding on the sl90 motor that was on ebay i ended up winning it good thing I have a cousin about 30 mins from him hes gonna pick the motor up and bring it to me this summer, Looks Like I got parts for 2 conv's now

Not me LOL . Post the auction address so we can see what you got .

Finally got the brake drum so I can put the rear end together .

[motoman1012002]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-S90-HONDA-SUPER-90-S-90-ENGINE-MOTOR-NO-RESERVE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem563c2cd586QQitemZ37037 6758662QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

dont look bad

[shortline10]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-S90-HONDA-SUPER-90-S-90-ENGINE-MOTOR-NO-RESERVE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem563c2cd586QQitemZ37037 6758662QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

dont look bad

Nice score ! Notice the 3 mounting holes in the center cases so it wont bolt up to a atc frame but all the internal parts should work . The tranny and clutch set up is well worth that . Its a good thing I didnt see that auction or it would have gone HIGHER LOL .

[shortline10]

Little more progress this morning . Installed a 16 tooth front sprocket and a Circle Industries 42 tooth rear sprocket on the back . NOS MTC racing axle , got the brakes and drum on . Next on the list is the chain and tensioner .

Still not sure if I want to put a PCCC front suspension kit on this or the RuttRyder :naughty:.Maybe just a set of aftermarket chrome rigid front forks . :wondering

[motoman1012002]

that axle looks tough I go with the chrome after market or rutt something differnt with all the shrome thats on the bike

[shortline10]

Installed the a new 428H chain , hubs , tensioner , aftermarket WPC pegs . Going together pretty easy :D.

[dirtbiken]

its going to be awesome when your done man

[xrider]

Looking good Mike

[bandito90]

Looking good!I like the pegs.That's going to be a tough choice on the front forks?Rutt Ryder or chrome rigid?

[shortline10]

Looking good!I like the pegs.That's going to be a tough choice on the front forks?Rutt Ryder or chrome rigid?

This one is going flat track style so i'm thinking the chrome rigid forks but i'm not 100% set on that .

[honda250sx]

Thank god for my droid phone. I can't stop checking this thread!!! This thing looks so great Mike. I can't wait to start mine.

[shortline10]

Thank god for my droid phone. I can't stop checking this thread!!! This thing looks so great Mike. I can't wait to start mine.

Thanks for the props Jeff .
Ordered the rear tires today so maybe I can drop it to the ground by next weekend . I've had the fenders for this for a while now and wait to you see what color I'm going with LOL .

[motoman1012002]

You got another set of them pegs I love them I put my 110 motor back together for the 1st time in 10 year's

[shortline10]

You got another set of them pegs I love them I put my 110 motor back together for the 1st time in 10 year's

I have a few sets of the pegs but I dont want to sell them .

[motoman1012002]

I know you got a set of these but heres another http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/79-Honda-ATC-110-FRONT-FORK-ASSEMBLY-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem10f14e723QQitemZ454799 5427QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[shortline10]

I know you got a set of these but heres another http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/79-Honda-ATC-110-FRONT-FORK-ASSEMBLY-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem10f14e723QQitemZ454799 5427QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Little to rusty for my liking LOL .

[bigworm626]

Mike,
Your project coming along cherry! Had a question for you if you don't mind, I'm about to install a new 428H chain on my 1970 atc 90cc, I'll have to size it first, but issue is in installation. This model has the adjustment sprocket that's right beside the big sprocket, does the chain go around it or loops in between? I hope I'm explaining myself right, sorry.

[shortline10]

Mike,
Your project coming along cherry! Had a question for you if you don't mind, I'm about to install a new 428H chain on my 1970 atc 90cc, I'll have to size it first, but issue is in installation. This model has the adjustment sprocket that's right beside the big sprocket, does the chain go around it or loops in between? I hope I'm explaining myself right, sorry.

The chain will ride on the top of the tensioner sprocket .

[motoman1012002]

you know what kinda of cam this is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230459402111&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

[shortline10]

you know what kinda of cam this is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230459402111&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Without compairing it to another cam I have no clue .

[shortline10]

I put the aftermarket front forks on but not 100% sure I want to use them or not but they do look nice . I also got the brake linkage and pedal all installed today .

Bought the parts to do the crank case breather set up , need to vent the head and block so I wont blow any gaskets or seals LOL .

[RodKnockRacing]

looks good mike

[motoman1012002]

I bet black fiberglass fenders

[shortline10]

I bet black fiberglass fenders

Nope not black .

[motoman1012002]

ok its in the rainbow

[shortline10]

Got the crank case breathers all hooked up today as well as the Supertrapp exhaust mounted .
Next is to wire it up and see if it gets spark :lol:.

[motoman1012002]

Looking good are is this really aftermarket or are they just nos

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-83-HONDA-ATC110-N-O-S-AFTERMARKET-REAR-AXLE-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2307076f8fQQitemZ15044 1783183QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[Vealmonkey]

I don't know if that axle is aftermarket or not, but it's not a Heavy Duty axle. It pretty much looks just like a stock style axle. That's alot of cake for a non Heavy Duty axle. I think I paid $45 for the last nos rear axle I picked up. A Heavy Duty aftermarket rear axle won't have the taper to it like that axle does.

[SeaBass8]

I don't know if that axle is aftermarket or not, but it's not a Heavy Duty axle. It pretty much looks just like a stock style axle. A Heavy Duty aftermarket rear axle won't have the taper to it like that axle does.

Thats a Nasa axle. I recently bought a Nasa axle from that seller for my 200X project and it does have a mild tapper but it is REAL beefy. I can't speak for that axle specifically but the one for the 200X is deffinetly heavy duty.

Edit: awesome build you got there Shortline.

[motoman1012002]

who got the 110 stroker crank on ebay

[shortline10]

Got a little more done on the Bandito yesterday , Installed the harness , NOS coil and points and the POS had no spark which was getting me frustrated :lol:. Finally figured out the stator was no good :crazy:so that got replaced and now have a nice fat spark . Installed the front tire and went a little different on this build with a Kenda 20x7-8 which I know I will get some slack:lock: because its made for a quad :crazy:but I'm liking the look of it .

[Shorty]

Got a little more done on the Bandito yesterday , Installed the harness , NOS coil and points and the POS had no spark which was getting me frustrated :lol:. Finally figured out the stator was no good :crazy:so that got replaced and now have a nice fat spark . Installed the front tire and went a little different on this build with a Kenda 20x7-8 which I know I will get some slack:lock: because its made for a quad :crazy:but I'm liking the look of it .

Nice work!!
Whats color is this one gonna be painted? Red,white and blue with turbo rims? LOL

[atc350xer]

Looking good Mike... love the chrome frame

[motoman1012002]

looks good mike cant wait to see it done

[shortline10]

Thanks for the props . Rear tires are supposed to come in tomorrow so I can finally unstrap it from the rafters and put her on the ground .

[motoman1012002]

I wanna see the color

[shortline10]

I wanna see the color

In dew time LOL .

[thestud25]

In dew time LOL .

Is that a Pepsico measurement of time? J/k. I have greatly enjoyed your builds and cannot wait to see the finished product on this one!!

[shortline10]

Is that a Pepsico measurement of time? J/k. I have greatly enjoyed your builds and cannot wait to see the finished product on this one!!
Nope , it's in Bud Light time LOl

[thestud25]

I have alot of figures in Bud Light time. I went to bed Friday night at outtabudlightthirty. Woke up Saturday at needabudlightfifteen, and set my alarm for Sunday at ididntneedthatlastbudlightoclock!!

[motoman1012002]

I know theres been some more work done

[shortline10]

I know theres been some more work done

OK OK let me get the camera :lol:

[Shorty]

OK OK let me get the camera :lol:

YES go get the camera!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[shortline10]

Got the tires installed on an old set of mitchel wheels and used a set of 3 inch wheel spacers to give it that wide stance as a flat tracker . Installed the handle bars so its easy to move around the shop . I did recover the seat and install it on the fenders but no pics of those yet :lol::naughty:.

[motoman1012002]

hum looks nice but would look better with fenders ahaha

[shortline10]

hum looks nice but would look better with fenders ahaha

I might install the fenders this weekend . Need to paint the tank still but will probably get it up and running first .

[atc350xer]

sexy! :drool:

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

so...shiny...can't...look...away...:drool:

[shortline10]

Decided to play with the front end today . Gathered up all the parts for the light and installed that and still had some time so I installed the front fender also .
The fender colors are factory 1983 Honda atc blue gelcoated in fiberglass and to match that is near impossible so I decided to just do old school blue metal flake on the tank and light and they match up pretty nicely with the fenders :D.

So Dan you now know the color :lol:

[motoman1012002]

thats actual pretty clean

[84atc200]

I like the blue.

[Xpress]

That's one FABULOUS trike!!!! :D

[atc350xer]

Simply awesome!

[bandito90]

Looking good!!!:)

[Mr_RPM]

wow thats really cool

[motoman1012002]

did you ever find one of them old school big al's seats I found two one still in the big al's package

[Dirtcrasher]

Beautiful work Shortline!!

I'm soooooooooooooo glad you became a member of 3WW and share so much information and offer help and suggestions with us :beer

Have a great day!

[shortline10]

did you evder fid one of them old school big al's seats is I found two one still in the big al's package

Come on man !!!!! You cant post with a find like that without pics :pics:.
Thats like the holy grail as far as seats go :lol:

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

That color looks awsome with all the chrome. What tires are on the rear the look pretty sweet?

[shortline10]

That color looks awsome with all the chrome. What tires are on the rear the look pretty sweet?

18x9.5-8 carlisle turf master tires on the rear . Their just like the old school turf saver from back in the day but with a smaller S tread pattern .

[shortline10]

Beautiful work Shortline!!

I'm soooooooooooooo glad you became a member of 3WW and share so much information and offer help and suggestions with us :beer

Have a great day!

Thanks DC :cry: . I def enjoy this site and all the good people here :beer .

[motoman1012002]

Im working on the guy that has them he dont want to sell but he's hurting right now for money

[shortline10]

Between yesterday and a little this morning I got the clutch arm & cable installed , twist throttle , grips , kill button and the rear tail light .
Next is to tackle the gas tank which I'm using a 1970 atc90 with the bolt on Honda badges .

[RodKnockRacing]

looks sweet Mike

[motoman1012002]

how many does this build make now mike

[shortline10]

how many does this build make now mike

Lets just say I have owned and built a-lot of 3 wheelers . Way to many to count LOL

[bigworm626]

Coming along nicely Mike!

[Buster Brown]

That's very nice. Great work!

[krazykane]

Very nice build man

[84atc200]

Between yesterday and a little this morning I got the clutch arm & cable installed , twist throttle , grips , kill button and the rear tail light .
Next is to tackle the gas tank which I'm using a 1970 atc90 with the bolt on Honda badges .

Man its looking excellent so far.

[shortline10]

Its a Runner :w00t:. Needs a little fine tuning but it sounds really mean:twisted: . SL90 Tranny and manual clutch mods all worked perfect with no issues at all .

Will post some new pics probably tomorrow :).

[Xpress]

Is that a supertrapp I see? :cool:

[shortline10]

Is that a supertrapp I see? :cool:

Yep thats a supertrapp . Started with 9 disks and ended up with 20 . I like them to breathe.:naughty:

[Xpress]

:lol: I think mine has 8 disks on it. Where can I get more?

[shortline10]

Its up and running but still need to jet and fine tune .

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

Thats just a thing of beauty :drool:

[atc350xer]

LOVE it! :drool: That metal flake is the shizz!

[RodKnockRacing]

awesome job Mike

[bigcrunch]

Nice scoot :) my k0 is almost same color, but will be repainted to teh original green.

Question on the head and crankcase breather both required? Can one just do the head without issue?

[shortline10]

Nice scoot :) my k0 is almost same color, but will be repainted to teh original green.

Question on the head and crankcase breather both required? Can one just do the head without issue?

IMO when you get into such a large stroker as I did you need to vent the way I did at the head and the bottom end . If your just doing say a big bore and no stroker just vent the bottom end .
Another trick is to vent the factory dip stick with a small brass fitting .

[shortline10]

Lots of test and tuning today and finally found the correct size jet (160). The biggest problem was a flat spot in the midrange power which I finally got rid of by changing the intake manifold to the longer style Rocky brand . Wish I new why some motors like the long manifold and some like the short ones LOL.
I have had this problem in the past were I have a Pauter motor that will only run with a short manifold . Maybe its in the porting and the style of cam shaft used ?
Maybe some of you old timers can shed some light on this for me :lol:.

[bigcrunch]

IMO when you get into such a large stroker as I did you need to vent the way I did at the head and the bottom end . If your just doing say a big bore and no stroker just vent the bottom end .
Another trick is to vent the factory dip stick with a small brass fitting .

Mine are stock 90cc, small brass fitting in dip stick as in type with breather on top or fitting and add clear tube?
From what I can tell both of mine are stock spec internally 2.5hp at best getting blowby seepage out the tappet cover and dipstick. So just trying to avoid blowing a gasket here.
thanks and keep posting pics of your scoot

[shortline10]

Mine are stock 90cc, small brass fitting in dip stick as in type with breather on top or fitting and add clear tube?
From what I can tell both of mine are stock spec internally 2.5hp at best getting blowby seepage out the tappet cover and dipstick. So just trying to avoid blowing a gasket here.
thanks and keep posting pics of your scoot

Just vent the factory dipstick with a small brass fitting and clear tubing . Make sure the tubing is 3-4 inches higher as soon as you come out of the dipstick so the oil stays in the motor .

[motoman1012002]

mike looks good and nice color

[bigcrunch]

I took a look at my dip stick, I'll ask if this is the way to do it:

drill approx 1/8" hole from top of dipstick down into one of the quarter triangles on bottom, drill out and tap top side for
1/8" NPT fitting. Add fitting and hose, run hose up underneath seat out of way from crush of course and exit rear..........?????

[shortline10]

I took a look at my dip stick, I'll ask if this is the way to do it:

drill approx 1/8" hole from top of dipstick down into one of the quarter triangles on bottom, drill out and tap top side for
1/8" NPT fitting. Add fitting and hose, run hose up underneath seat out of way from crush of course and exit rear..........?????

You got it . Hope it gets rid of all the leaks .

[Vealmonkey]

One thing I've noticed is some of the stator side covers have vent holes in them and some don't. Once you cut out the part for the hi/lo transmission gear it sort of cuts the vent in 2. I can see where you would want to plug up the vent in the lower part of the case, but I don't really think that you would want to plug the vent in the upper part of the side cover. Worst comes to worst, you may get a little oil vapor on your rear chain.

[miajosh]

ok so this bike looks wicked but how does it run? crazy wheelies, neverending top end? i wanna see a vid of it running.

[bigworm626]

Ohhs & ooozzz!! Awesome, fantastic job bro! You outdid yourself!

[90crazy]

Its up and running but still need to jet and fine tune .
How do you do your gas line? Got any close up pics? Also what is the best way to restore exhausts? Do you use just hi temp paint or header paint? And on your breather hose setup, what size is the brass 90 you put in the valve cover? Is that 1/4 hose and T?

[shortline10]

How do you do your gas line? Got any close up pics? Also what is the best way to restore exhausts? Do you use just hi temp paint or header paint? And on your breather hose setup, what size is the brass 90 you put in the valve cover? Is that 1/4 hose and T?

I block off the reg side and run the fuel line off the reserve side . Install a briggs inline petcock and a clear fuel filter and connect it to the carb all out of 3/16 fuel hose .
I use 1200 degree hi heat paint on my pipes and the trick is to let it dry over night before running the motor .

The brass 90's are 3/8 and the hose is 5/16 clear fuel hose for the breather set up and really nice uv rated zip ties to hold them on .

[thestud25]

Its up and running but still need to jet and fine tune .

Class, no other way to describe it!!

[motoman1012002]

So what you gonna build next I wanna see the rutt ryder used

[shortline10]

So what you gonna build next I wanna see the rutt ryder used

Was gonna get some local prices to get the rutt chromed and put it on the bandito , just havnt gotten around to it . I still have to finish this one lol .
Next project is to mildly restore my 1980 ATC 185 . Little hard to find parts for as its the first full size trike made .

[motoman1012002]

you must have a 1980 185 big frame right with the split the rear fenders

[shortline10]

you must have a 1980 185 big frame right with the split the rear fenders
Yep , and the orange plastic fenders instead of the red .

[motoman1012002]

haha I need to send you pics of mine it sits in dads office at the house got motor work and a bassani on it

[shortline10]

haha I need to send you pics of mine it sits in dads office at the house got motor work and a bassani on it

Yeah !
Get some pic of that old puppy .

[motoman1012002]

mike you got any vids of these little bikes to see how much of a differance there is from a stock witch most people have compared to one with some motor work

[brapp]

thats just downright awesome!!!!!

[shortline10]

mike you got any vids of these little bikes to see how much of a differance there is from a stock witch most people have compared to one with some motor work

I REALLY need to get a YouTube account setup and figure out how to get video up for you guys . You will be amazed how fast a atc90 can really be when its tricked out . I'm talking just as fast as a air cooled R LOL .

[Vealmonkey]

If you get one of the digital video recorders with the software already in it for youtube, it's super easy. Even easier than posting pics on here. LOL It would be kind of neat to have an old timers meet. No water coolers, you know? Except for maybe the old percolator head 250rs! LOL Hardtails, suspension frames and that kind of stuff. Shortline, I just put an old picture of my bolt on suspension 185s on zeekers thread, maybe you should throw a couple pics on there as well for support. How about it?

[shortline10]

If you get one of the digital video recorders with the software already in it for youtube, it's super easy. Even easier than posting pics on here. LOL It would be kind of neat to have an old timers meet. No water coolers, you know? Except for maybe the old percolator head 250rs! LOL Hardtails, suspension frames and that kind of stuff. Shortline, I just put an old picture of my bolt on suspension 185s on zeekers thread, maybe you should throw a couple pics on there as well for support. How about it?

Mine is still in the works and up in the attic but I can snap a pic of the frame for all to see .

[krazykane]

are you seriuos about the 90s being that fast i mean they are prob pretty quick but hey i dont know so just asking

[Xpress]

shortline, get a video camera that has video output type that your operating system can read. JVC's flashy Everio cameras with the YouTube direct uploading option doesn't work, and it's a rather painstaking method to upload it. I'd suggest something that outputs .AVI files, which simple movie editors like iMovie or Windows Movie Maker can read. Still image cameras often output in .AVI format, but their quality is a bit lacking in the video department.

The Flip HD camcorders are great, simple to use camcorders with a built in USB jack, and export in a format which PC's and Mac's can read. Really good investment for the common person wanting to record stuff. They're inexpensive too, and have a decent screen size for video playback.

OR you can go all out and buy a Sony DV camera :D :D

[shortline10]

are you seriuos about the 90s being that fast i mean they are prob pretty quick but hey i dont know so just asking

A completely tricked out atc90 . I'm talking bored and stroked to 180cc on alcohol or even VP110 will keep up with a mild 250R air fooler . Dont forget these atc90 racers are a 100 pounds lighter than a R also .

[shortline10]

Wife knows how to do it . I just have to get her to go out side for a few min in this 98 degree heat LOL .




shortline, get a video camera that has video output type that your operating system can read. JVC's flashy Everio cameras with the YouTube direct uploading option doesn't work, and it's a rather painstaking method to upload it. I'd suggest something that outputs .AVI files, which simple movie editors like iMovie or Windows Movie Maker can read. Still image cameras often output in .AVI format, but their quality is a bit lacking in the video department.

The Flip HD camcorders are great, simple to use camcorders with a built in USB jack, and export in a format which PC's and Mac's can read. Really good investment for the common person wanting to record stuff. They're inexpensive too, and have a decent screen size for video playback.



OR you can go all out and buy a Sony DV camera :D :D

[MrGiggles]

This might have been discussed already, and if it is somebody can just point me to the post #. It's going to take me awhile to read through 11 pages.

You said you did a manual clutch conversion? How so? It sparked my interest since I've always wanted a manual clutch on one of my toys.

[shortline10]

This might have been discussed already, and if it is somebody can just point me to the post #. It's going to take me awhile to read through 11 pages.

You said you did a manual clutch conversion? How so? It sparked my interest since I've always wanted a manual clutch on one of my toys.

SL90 is the conversion but you need to read and learn LOL .

[MrGiggles]

SL90 is the conversion but you need to read and learn LOL .

I've read your thread and I think I have most of it picked up.

So, to convert a stock ATC110 over you need and SL90 clutch cover, clutch, tranny shaft, and the aftermarket seal?

[Dirtcrasher]

Shortline, whatever Jeff doesn't want I can send your way. Just for the shipping...............

[shortline10]

Shortline, whatever Jeff doesn't want I can send your way. Just for the shipping...............

Not sure what you got DC ? Lots of stock parts ? I can always use em .

[motoman1012002]

mike you need to get out all of your 90's and 110's and take a group pic for us

[shortline10]

mike you need to get out all of your 90's and 110's and take a group pic for us

Possibly something soon !

[motoman1012002]

that would be a great pic

[motoman1012002]

I was looking around today and seen that powroll VENTED VALVE CAP for the trx90 ya think the threads are the same and would work on the 110

[shortline10]

I was looking around today and seen that powroll VENTED VALVE CAP for the trx90 ya think the threads are the same and would work on the 110

If its the same as a atc70 their different .

[motoman1012002]

the pic on page looks like its on a pit bike and that what got me wondering

[shortline10]

the pic on page looks like its on a pit bike and that what got me wondering

Pit bikes are smaller like the atc70's . the atc90/110 are a size of their owne .

[motoman1012002]

yeah I know that, Thats what makeing me wonder about the cap just though it would be another trick part

[shortline10]

A few 90/110 builds going on so I thought I would bump this thread to help out .

[Xowner]

WOW, thats really nice shortline. One thing i picked up is mine has a complete allen bolt kit installed in the motor. I wonder if there is any internal work done to it.


Also if i put the sl90 main shaft in can i get rid of the high low box without going manual clutch? or if i use the shaft i have to go manual?

[shortline10]

The tranny shaft has nothing to do with the clutch so yes you can just do the shaft and leave the auto clutch set up but at least put HD clutch springs in the auto clutch .



WOW, thats really nice shortline. One thing i picked up is mine has a complete allen bolt kit installed in the motor. I wonder if there is any internal work done to it.


Also if i put the sl90 main shaft in can i get rid of the high low box without going manual clutch? or if i use the shaft i have to go manual?

[drb930]

PM sent.

Thanks,
Dave

[riverrat]

Did I just see someone get married on this trike?

[shortline10]

Married ??? Aaaaaahhhhhh I dont think so LOL .

I've changed the headpipe to a chrome one and added a few decals also oh and a chrome headlight guard too so maybe i'll post some new pic . Def a blast to ride .








Did I just see someone get married on this trike?

[riverrat]

Married ??? Aaaaaahhhhhh I dont think so LOL .

Ah come on dude I have the video to prove it...notice the trike the bride rode in on, awesome video BTW


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FQrZBXehrs

[r00sty]

Oh man... that vid made me pee a wee bit!!! Lmao...

Well since im new to this world of Banditos, 90s and 110's and now own it all, can someone explain to me the benefit of getting rid of the Hi/Low box? Other than they look gay, and limit your options of sprockets probably. Thanks

[Vealmonkey]

You pretty much nailed it on the head. You have more options performance wise for sprockets. Also, less parts to mess up and have to maintain. And that is why you go to a manual clutch, better performance options and the manual clutches can take more power than the semi auto clutchtes and of course better control over your rpms.

[rdlsz24]

Who is that getting married in that vid by Kasey? Are they members here?

Rob

[atctim]

That is his Richard (Kasey's) daughter at the Imperial Invasion! Reverend Sprock officiated!

[dcreel]

Ah come on dude I have the video to prove it...notice the trike the bride rode in on, awesome video BTW

That's a 70

[HONDA_ATC_FREAK]

LMAO:lol::lol: that was so funny I couldn't stop laughing. The part at the end was funny it sounded like a wasp nest inside of a trashcan. 2-strokes rule:twisted:

[shortline10]

My other tank sprung a leak so this on is on temporary . Not the best of video but here goes LOL .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIfWGvvhQlY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXr8bxAsyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkGKIxk5Ws

[motoman1012002]

I need to build mine

[Mr_RPM]

I just got mine done, waiting for a head light and mud to dry up before I show it off. I also need to dial it in, right now throttle response is very bad.

just finished it today actually

[motoman1012002]

mike you need to get some rid vids up one one of them

[jadleybray]

Very cool build!!!

[thestud25]

Ah come on dude I have the video to prove it...notice the trike the bride rode in on, awesome video BTW

That is the "Blue Ryder" that Kasey built.

[shortline10]

Decided to install some different rear tires on the bandito today !!!

[250x]

looks fantastic Mike.

[jsmay]

let's see you rippin up that yard!

[shortline10]

Last time I tried making a video of me riding this bike I ended up crashing into the BARB wire fence :lol:





let's see you rippin up that yard!

[250x]

lol, now thats funny. BTW, Mike, your going to get my 200x stuff here probably next week(ish)

[jsmay]

Last time I tried making a video of me riding this bike I ended up crashing into the BARB wire fence :lol:

maybe let someone else hold the camera...:D

[shortline10]

Maybe that will help !!! I had the bike in a full pitch sidways and hit an exposed tree root and I was like superman into the fence :lol: still have the scars on my hand . Its on video some were but as soon as she started to see me crash the camera went down for the main event . I was more concerened about the scratch in the front fender than the blood all over me :lol: Wife was not happy that day .




maybe let someone else hold the camera...:D

[jsmay]

not good.. maybe you should stay off the bikes and in the shop...:D

[ctk]

maybe you should let the wife ride and you video tape...;)
Awesome trikes.

[shortline10]

Now that would be a funny site to see :lol:



maybe you should let the wife ride and you video tape...;)
Awesome trikes.

[shortline10]

Here ya go Todd . Bump

[90guy]

Thanks Mike Appreciate it! Just started looking for it!

[hawaiirider]

woooowww! awesome trike!!!!! did i say woooooooooowww!

[350x'inNY]

Just getting into the 90-110 mods myself.....I like the US90 tank. I was thinking of doing the 8" H-tracs on the rear of mine as well. Since I have that cool chromed rear brake/carrier/sprocket cover setup with the US90 6-spline axle, I am trying to use as many US90 parts as possible...

Bruce

[tblumer]

Did you use a freeze plug to cap the kick starter hole? I've got a late 60's S90 motor kicking around, wondering if I can cannibalize the manual clutch for my 90. I've got the atc90 motor on the bench while my cylinder is getting bored to 54mm.

[shortline10]

I've used several methods to plug up the kicker hole but the easiest is the freeze plug .
I got a motor in one time were they used a quarter and some epoxy LOL but it worked ....
Did you get the new motor mounts ?


Did you use a freeze plug to cap the kick starter hole? I've got a late 60's S90 motor kicking around, wondering if I can cannibalize the manual clutch for my 90. I've got the atc90 motor on the bench while my cylinder is getting bored to 54mm.

[tblumer]

Yes, mounts came yesterday, wife tells me today :D ..... Anyhoo thanks for the quick turnaround!

[shortline10]

Here ya go . Bump