Is this a 85 or 86 250R?

[TeXaS SoB]

I have located this bike in my town and i want it. Ive been wanting a liquid 250R for a long time. I have found this one but don't know what year it is. I know its gonna need some work he said it hasnt been cranked in 5 years. I kicked on the kicker and it seem locked up or stuck. The guy wants $1000 for it and i know its not worth it so what do you think its worth?

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee34/i_gotgame33/56876d7d.jpg?t=1272147442

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee34/i_gotgame33/0eb470a3.jpg?t=1272147631

[rdlsz24]

Going by the seat, it's an 85. 86 says 'ATC' on the seat. I would give at most maybe $300 or so considering it needs to be completey gone over. That thing is beat

Rob

[Yamahondaman]

Agrreed !!

[TeXaS SoB]

OK i wasn't sure i knew you could tell by the seat but didn't know which was what. Im gonna see what he'll take. There hard to find around this area at all in any kind of shape i think i would prolly give $500 for it if i had to but i don't think hes gonna want to come off of it. i think i may sell all my atcs but my 200s and 70 to fund me a 250R lol.

[jeffatc250r]

Black motor, 85 style rear brake caliper mount, seat, polished top tripp, looks to be all 85. Even a tarp coulda prob helped out a lil bit. Too bad.
Honestly, I wouldnt give $200 for it, every last thing on it will prob need attention and will prob run into the thousands to get it presentable and rolling again. Look for something better, you will be happy you passed on this toilet.

[Dammit!]

Definitely 1985 and I'd offer him $50.

First rule of price negotiation. If you're not embarrassed by your first offer, it's too high. ;)

[TeXaS SoB]

lol nice. OK well im gonna at least ask, like i say they don't pop up around here very often and if the do there expensive.

[haggard 2hundie]

do not pay 1000 for that i think the seller is confusing sentimental value for resale value 300 tops !

[oldskool83]

try and get it as cheap as possible if you do want it. it will need alot of work, everything will need to be replaced. figure on a full motor rebuilt and prob about 2000-2500K work.

[350Xccelerator]

$1000? That dude is out of his mind!

[3wheelmecca]

Dang, I dig the FMF silencer though. I thought pipes and silencers on the R's only fit their brand counterpart as in stock pipe/stock silencer, DG pipe/DG silencer, etc.
I would offer about $150 if he rejects the $50 or $75. Just my $.02 though.

[jeffatc250r]

If you cant find one around where you are, look on here or even ebay, a NICE rider can be had in the 1000-1200 range. Hoof the shipping and for $1500 your done. To get that thing presentable, your gonna spend ALOT more. That thing is a parts bike, and a sh!tty one at that.

[mudbogger]

If you cant find one around where you are, look on here or even ebay, a NICE rider can be had in the 1000-1200 range. Hoof the shipping and for $1500 your done. To get that thing presentable, your gonna spend ALOT more. That thing is a parts bike, and a sh!tty one at that.

I totally AGREE-gonna be a boatload of cash to get it back in running state, believe me I just took a beating on my TECATE project, it needed everything and I spent a ton of cash to get it to it's current state.

[KASEY]

ok,, the way i see it,,, if the left case is good thats a $200 bill...... dead motors on ebay are bringing BANK because the cases are discontinued,,, i see a diamond in the rough ,,, i see a aftermarket axle and a billet antifade,,, $200 more,,, i would go pick it up and start your 250r project,,,, even if you just part it out and make some cash for a nicer one,,,, there is money to be made on this!!!!

[Billy Golightly]

That bike has a lot of potential (I'l lsecond the thought it looks like an 85) but there is no way its worth $1000. Half, at the absolute MOST.

[BIGREDGUY]

Just start off low, you can always go higher.

[QCR77]

lots of good points being made here. i see youre in Tx, i think you can find a much better deal than this . i , personally, would pass if he wont take $200. i waited and waited for a deal. i had to drive from SA to waco, but got a fantastic deal.

oh, and , GO SPURS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DixiePlowboy]

Dude, if the seller really thought it was worth $1000, don't you think he would have at least covered it up instead of letting it rot down? Maybe....he should have at least trimmed the grass growing growing in the seat foam.:rolleyes:

He'd have to get his heart right before I would buy it.....and $1000 for that aint right.

Yeah, it looks to have an axle and 10" wheels/Hoosiers(that may be dry rotted), but those a four-figure machine do not make in my book....especially when the rest of the machine needs so much attention.

For comparison: I traded around for my '85 R.....running good, but needing plastic/cosmetic work. I effectively gave about $750 for mine looking a bit rough, but I house, maintain and treat mine like I've got $3000 in it. It's not "nice" by the standards of many, I'm sure, but I still care for it.

[harryredtrike]

what a shame,leave her outside and let her rot.what an ass

[D-dub]

Definatly pass on this heap! Then rob parts off it!

[DixiePlowboy]

Dang, I dig the FMF silencer though. I thought pipes and silencers on the R's only fit their brand counterpart as in stock pipe/stock silencer, DG pipe/DG silencer, etc.

Actually there were several silencers that would fit the stock pipe as well as their brand counterpart and other brand pipes. DG(early round steel, early round aluminum, and the current aluminum oval) , Richter Privateer, Answer Equalizer, etc.... as well as others would interchange. Basanni is the main brand that come to mind that were(in many cases) built to work with their brand pipe only.

I guess that's two different sales philosophies at work. Sell more silencers because they can fit more pipes, or, make more off the silencer because nobody else's will fit your pipe....hmmm:)

As a matter of fact, the guy I talked to at ESR said that my DG silencer would work fine with their ATC5 pipe. The money I save by not having to buy an ESR silencer almost pays for my porting.

[3wheelmecca]

hmmmm *stroking beard* I am going to look now for some type of silencer then, my 85 one is trashed and plugged bad.
Tex, I would do a trade IMHO, I traded my old Bolt-Action for my first 350X, turned out it needed a clutch, but my rifle needed a bolt. It might turn out good for you, who knows.

[Brockey]

I agree with Kasey. There are loads of parts there. Sure they all need attention but I'd be willing to give him a few hundred for it. I paid $400 for this 81R and had to rebuild-replace almost everything. But it was a fun project.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/Brockey/250r.jpg

[whyzee]

If you cant find one around where you are, look on here or even ebay, a NICE rider can be had in the 1000-1200 range. Hoof the shipping and for $1500 your done. To get that thing presentable, your gonna spend ALOT more. That thing is a parts bike, and a sh!tty one at that.

agreed again ^^^!
that thing is should be free

[Tectool]

Dont do it....its a trick...I am just about done with my 86 Tecate and it was the most frustrating project ever.......but.....riding one....wow...cant believe I ever enjoyed riding a 4X4 quad...simple light fun...like its supposed to be...I think he should pay you to take it...you should be able to deduct rebuilding it on your taxes....like community service...or restoring artwork....thats it!!!

[TeXaS SoB]

Well I talked to the guy come to find out i knew him and his family. It was his dads bike to begin with and thats were the price comes in. He says it will start with a new plug and carb kit but i know better since its set for 5 years and like i said i kicked on it and it didnt move. But any ways they need the money because his dad now has cancer and has been out of work so thats were the price was. I told theres no way in hell me or anyone else would give a grand for it and he said well it can sit there and rot for all i give a sh!t. Then we realized we knew each other and I knew his dad so things kinda changes a bit he said at the least they might take $500 for it and i told him i would give $300. He then said hey you never know if you have cash in your hand and my dad wants to get rid of it he may sell it for less than $500.

[DixiePlowboy]

I told theres no way in hell me or anyone else would give a grand for it and he said well it can sit there and rot for all i give a sh!t. .

And apparently nobody has given a trailpro about it in years. Otherwise, it could've been worth more than the asking price.

For him to concede that they may take $500 (half the price) just tells you how overinflated it was to begin with. Their situation sucks(cancer and all), but sentimental value doesn't always equate to dollar value.

If you can get it for a price you are comfortable with and take the project and the process on, good luck. Get her going and you're going to love it.

[inv3ctiv3]

HAHA $1000? That's gotta be a joke! The bikes here in CA sell for about $1300-1600 with extremely low hours and all original...I see you offered $300, that's much more realistic and I would pay $300 for it.

[Macdiesel]

300 is not bad, figure about 400 to completely redo the motor and thats including all new bearings and seals, piston rings, bore and crank, I paid 600 for mine running but way rough only to do leak down test and realize crank seals were bad and I figured why its apart lets do it all. Right no I have about 1500 in mine including new plastics, coplete engin rebuild top to bottom, v force reeds, front bearings and seals, new oem clutch perch and lever, new font brake system, seat rubbers, exhaust mounts, shop manual honda one not clymer, chain, throttle and clutch cable, complete gasket kit, carb kit, ignition switch and other odds and ends, It all just depends on how much you like projects, and how patient you are, but its totally worth the money pit it will become cause at the end you can step back and look at what you have done and created.. just to smile its great .... I hihly recommend it to anyone, I will also addpeople on here are great and very helpful both at finding parts and giving advice Thanks guys for all you have helped out so far

[TeXaS SoB]

yeah i really want it just gotta see what they will do. I completely redid mt 85 tecate and 82 250r only to sell them on ebay later. if i get this machine i would never sell it unless i found a nicer one for a good price. I hate waiting to find things and if i knew were one was at a reasonable price in decent shape i wouldn't even think twice about this one but i don't so its just about my only option for a 85-86 250R.