View Full Version : 25x12x9 tire change with tire irons?
Daniel 250es
02-17-2010, 04:09 PM
My new itp mudlites are coming today. Will I be able to put them on my 3 wheeler rims with tire irons. I have done dirt bike tires many times is it just like that?
fabiodriven
02-17-2010, 04:37 PM
I have never done that exact tire or size, but all you can do is get those bad boys nice and warm (got a wood stove?) and get yourself some dish soap. Then, have at it!
Daniel 250es
02-17-2010, 04:41 PM
I have a wood stove and dish soap.
Woodsrider
02-17-2010, 05:16 PM
I'm thinking that those tires will have pretty damned stiff sidewalls...should give you a good challenge though. I'm curious to hear how it goes...please keep us posted.
jeffatc250r
02-17-2010, 05:32 PM
The tires should peel off like a wet bandaid, so long as you can break the beads that is. I cheat, I use a backhoe to pop them, works mint!
Mr_RPM
02-17-2010, 05:52 PM
yeah hard part is getting the old tires off, i put a 2x4 on the side wall and drive up the 2x4 with my truck, pops the bead. putting the new tires on rims, easy, just wressle them onto the rim and then use air compressure to seat the beads, u will prolly end up using 30 psi to seat them, like others said warm them and soap. u will hear a loud snap when they seat, make sure both sides snap. after that i normally pull out the valve stem core and let them air out, then air up to operating pressure.
AutoXer
02-17-2010, 07:34 PM
i have a manual tire machine that i bought at harbour freight .... works great!!! good luck seating your beads some times they seat nice ... leave the core out and feed all the air you can
2Tim215
02-17-2010, 07:55 PM
I also have the Harbor Freight manual Tire Changer, also bought the ATV bead breaker accessory from them. Still have problems with the 25-12-9's, I tried with different wheels/tires and only broke the bead lock once. The tire changer was lag bolted to my shop floor, I used a soapy solution, still an issue but will try again if need be. I like this thread though as I may try some of the other suggestions here. I didn't "warm up" my tires first, maybe that was my problem???
You guys need one of these Just need Real good aim for atv tires...bend a aluminum rim in a hurry if you miss....:rolleyes:
Custom200
02-17-2010, 10:18 PM
I have a big peice of angle iron which i jam between the rim and tire bead, The strike it with a sledge, Breaks the bead pretty easy.
atc350xer
02-17-2010, 10:27 PM
I go to a garage where a large sweaty man does it for me... wish I had my own
bonkers_200s
02-18-2010, 12:27 AM
I've been debating this myself, I just got a new set for my BR. I don't know, the few bucks a tire and tipping the guy with the machine still sounds like a good time to me.A friend of mine decided it was no big deal to do it himself, he spent 6 hours on 4 tires.
aldochina
02-18-2010, 01:17 AM
some places out there will do our tires cheap. Most dont even want to deal with atv tires. I have way to many tires that need changing and swapping, so I have been working on something to make the job easier!! I will start a thread when complete!! I always love these threads, everyone has there own methods. Ive tried alot of these caveman methods with little success, thats what provoked my little project.
atc350xer
02-18-2010, 10:01 AM
I've been debating this myself, I just got a new set for my BR. I don't know, the few bucks a tire and tipping the guy with the machine still sounds like a good time to me.A friend of mine decided it was no big deal to do it himself, he spent 6 hours on 4 tires.
This guy didn't think he could do an atv tire... then he clamped onto the OUTSIDE of the rim instead of the inside, and voila! He charged me $15 though... glad I didn't have more than 1 to do...
Daniel 250es
02-18-2010, 10:36 AM
I got the old tires off last night. I think they might have been the original tires. It was a bit**. I could not break the beads so I razor knifed off the tires and then used side cutters and a dremmel tool to cut the wires. With a friend that took about 45 minutes. I still need to clean up the bead area on the rims and I figured I better put new valve stems in. I don't have much time but I will try to install atleast one tire tonight.
I put the new tires by the wood stove for a few minutes and I can't believe how flexible it made them, I am certain that this is key to putting them on. I will keep you posted.
As for paying someone to do it..... I figure the money I save can be put towards the next part I need.
mopar_man
02-18-2010, 11:53 AM
I have a friend who works for a tire shop so I change my own tires for free on their machine. They will do most any tire, including ATV. The split wheels they don't like to do but they will do them. If your shop won't do ATV tires, find someone who will. They're not that difficult.
tulsamike3434
02-18-2010, 01:01 PM
http://www.atvoklahoma.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=171
mopar_man
02-18-2010, 01:17 PM
http://www.atvoklahoma.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=171
That's the easy part. Getting tires separated from a wheel that have been mated together for 15 years or more is the challenging part.
tulsamike3434
02-18-2010, 01:20 PM
Ahhhh got ya!
fabiodriven
02-18-2010, 01:21 PM
I put the new tires by the wood stove for a few minutes and I can't believe how flexible it made them, I am certain that this is key to putting them on. I will keep you posted.
It absolutely is key.
atc350xer
02-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Well, I just took a front rim from a 70 to a local lawn tractor service place... that tires been on for 25 years and was stuck bad. The service guy says "oh, split rims? no problem!" You can guess where I'm going from here... the guy struggles with it forever just to break the beads, starts BEATING on my rim with a hammer because the new tire was misshapen from sitting in a stack of tires and he couldn't get it to seat. Then he jams a screwdriver in the hole and torques it to get the holes to line up. Bent the rim a little, so he grabs a socket extension and his HAMMER again and says "oh, I'll straighten that out for ya". Gee, thanks bud. Then he proceeds to charge me $32.50 because it took so long... I gotta tell ya, my backside hurts right now. :(
Well, I just took a front rim from a 70 to a local lawn tractor service place... that tires been on for 25 years and was stuck bad. The service guy says "oh, split rims? no problem!" You can guess where I'm going from here... the guy struggles with it forever just to break the beads, starts BEATING on my rim with a hammer because the new tire was misshapen from sitting in a stack of tires and he couldn't get it to seat. Then he jams a screwdriver in the hole and torques it to get the holes to line up. Bent the rim a little, so he grabs a socket extension and his HAMMER again and says "oh, I'll straighten that out for ya". Gee, thanks bud. Then he proceeds to charge me $32.50 because it took so long... I gotta tell ya, my backside hurts right now. :(
Sounds like he did not know his head from his trailpro....a little lube go's along way...split rims are easy...just take a few more minutes to do properly.
rickybudz
02-18-2010, 09:31 PM
I have 25x12x9 tires. Let me tell you those things are no joke when it comes to the bead. I had broken 2x4s all over my driveway! Slide Hammers are the ticket to breaking the bead. Lots of dish soap is the ticket to reseating the bead. At least that was my experience! I think tire irons may just lead to frustration and maybe a busted lip or something.
muddog
02-18-2010, 09:39 PM
nothing quite like friends with tire machines :)
79fordblake
02-18-2010, 10:16 PM
Anybody had tires put on Aluminum Douglas wheels? I just wonder how yall went about doing it since you can't beat on pretty aluminum wheels.
The Goat
02-18-2010, 10:47 PM
....I really don't see the problem with putting on or taking of a tire. lol
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=50005761&l=2a8dfd0f2c&id=23415795
these tires are the only ones to ever defeat me...simply because I didn't have enough air pressure to inflate them. Mudlites aren't a stiff tire at all you should be fine.
as for the alluminum rims...VERY CAREFULLY. thankfully most of the time the tires pop right off of those rims due to lack of rust.
79fordblake
02-18-2010, 11:25 PM
Not trying to hijack the thread or nothin I was just curious. I am gonna be getting a set of 22-11-8 GBC Gators for my 185s and I was gonna get brand new Douglas Aluminum wheels to put them on also.
Now Im wondering if I should just paint up my stock wheels better, even though I want the pretty aluminums, lol.
aldochina
02-18-2010, 11:37 PM
some people are sooo cooool!!
Daniel 250es
02-19-2010, 09:00 AM
Ok bonkers you are right I will be taking the tires to someone else to mount. I am fa king done messing with them.
The right tool for the job makes all the difference.
atc350xer
02-19-2010, 09:31 AM
he spent 6 hours on 4 tires.
but trikes only have 3 :D
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