front sproket change!!

[4cfed]

Well i got my 13t front sprocket wensday and finally got it on tonight, didnt ride but ill see how i like it tommrow!!! also added air to my forks since the prev owner had no air in them front end lifted up like 3 inches!!!!

here is the pic of my old sproket.. looks like it was due for a change anyways, hard to see in the pictures but the teeth were starting to curl over

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/4cfed88/DSCN0052.jpg

[factoryX]

there is not supposed to be air in the forks. you didn't use a air compressor did you?

[4cfed]

no.. hand pump... not supposto be air in them??? ok someone taught me wrong than!!! had a few local trike riders tell me ad adjust them by adding or removing air threw the shrader valves on the top of the fork tubes..

with no air in the front my forks are soft and the front end sits low

[dcreel]

The schraeder valves are to remove air built up in the forks with use. You need to remove and replace the fluid in your forks with heavier weight fork fluid. You may also need to move up to Progressive fork springs. You may check the seals in your forks, you may be low on fluid as well.

[4cfed]

The schraeder valves are to remove air built up in the forks with use. You need to remove and replace the fluid in your forks with heavier weight fork fluid. You may also need to move up to Progressive fork springs. You may check the seals in your forks, you may be low on fluid as well.

wow!! thanks guys... well like i said i was taught wrong!! but why are the atc 250rs listed as air assisted forks?? and not a 200x?

[4cfed]

The schraeder valves are to remove air built up in the forks with use. You need to remove and replace the fluid in your forks with heavier weight fork fluid. You may also need to move up to Progressive fork springs. You may check the seals in your forks, you may be low on fluid as well.

im guessing mine would be low than seeing when there was no air in them the front end sat 3 inches lower, and would almost bottom out landing small jumps, and front end would dip hard when hittin the brakes or pop way up on throttle

[factoryX]

you springs are worn, and seals are probably bad.

[Yamaha_Rules69]

I disagree. You CAN put air in the forks, that is what they are designed for. I actually read in a manual one time that you can put air in them, standard is 0 psi, and max is 10 psi I believe. But the more air you pump into it, the better chance it has of blowing out a seal. You want equal ammount in each fork, and dont over do it. I have ran 5 psi in my 200x forks, and it still has air in them to this day, and seals not blown! It really makes a difference for a quick stiffining, but I would agree that heavier weight oil and progressive fork springs would be a lot better. Check out a manual, there has to be something about this in it!

[hondahaulic]

spring spacers can be made out of pvc pipe for a cheap way to stiffen up the front. Just pop the tops off the forks and stack the piece of pvc on top of the springs. If you search around you might be able to find what size most people use, but I'm guessing 1 to 1.5" long would make a big difference

[factoryX]

I disagree. You CAN put air in the forks, that is what they are designed for. I actually read in a manual one time that you can put air in them, standard is 0 psi, and max is 10 psi I believe. But the more air you pump into it, the better chance it has of blowing out a seal. You want equal ammount in each fork, and dont over do it. I have ran 5 psi in my 200x forks, and it still has air in them to this day, and seals not blown! It really makes a difference for a quick stiffining, but I would agree that heavier weight oil and progressive fork springs would be a lot better. Check out a manual, there has to be something about this in it!

yeah 20 years ago. there are several threads over this very subject and there is really no need for air pressure. it builds up by itself from riding. if your going to run pressure make sure its around 2-3psi.

[4cfed]

i think i put 5 psi in them... just needed a little more than they had, mine had 0 air in them, didnt want the hight just a little most stiffness in them since im a big guy...

[dcreel]

According to my Kawasaki tecate service manual.
When altering the shock absorption by changing the fork air pressure carry out the following steps:

Air Pressure Adjustment
*Park the vehicle on level ground
*The standard air pressure is atmospheric pressure.
*Remove the air valve cap and push the air valve to open.
*Reinstall the air valve cap.
NOTE
*Additional air pressure is not recommended since atmospheric pressure is the most suitable setting for all ranges of riding.

In my opinion using air pressure in your forks would be nothing more than a band aid to another problem with your forks (low fluid, bad springs, or leaking seals). The springs and fluid in your forks are there to do the job, without the need for stiffening your forks with air.

[Dirtcrasher]

I always found that any air I put in forks (back when I also thought it was like a tire tube, lol....) was gone in a ride or so.

I imagine every spring wear is different. But, I found 1.25" to be just long enough to work on many of the 200X forks. Of course I'd love to buy PS but don't wanna spend the $$.

Pretty much any material can be used but all the fork diameters are different. With the 200X, I had to turn down to OD of that spacer about .025" or so, or it would bind up...... But, the PVC is plenty hard enough to work and non-corrosive.

I think it was the white PVC maybe 3/4" size.... But there is also the electricians grey underground pipe and other odd stuff at all the home supply shops.

All of our forks are tired and everything within them is too. But, they serve the purpose...... When I rebuild them, I change the bushings and the plastic rings on the damper rod. It is what it is until we find a cheap alternative. For most of us 600$ forks and triples are just too much for practical use..........

EDIT - I forgot to say : Use a long extension and a socket to spin the fork cap back on by hand. Then tighten away.... Otherwise you risk stripping the fork or cap :(

[4cfed]

I always found that any air I put in forks (back when I also thought it was like a tire tube, lol....) was gone in a ride or so.

I imagine every spring wear is different. But, I found 1.25" to be just long enough to work on many of the 200X forks. Of course I'd love to buy PS but don't wanna spend the $$.

Pretty much any material can be used but all the fork diameters are different. With the 200X, I had to turn down to OD of that spacer about .025" or so, or it would bind up...... But, the PVC is plenty hard enough to work and non-corrosive.

I think it was the white PVC maybe 3/4" size.... But there is also the electricians grey underground pipe and other odd stuff at all the home supply shops.

All of our forks are tired and everything within them is too. But, they serve the purpose...... When I rebuild them, I change the bushings and the plastic rings on the damper rod. It is what it is until we find a cheap alternative. For most of us 600$ forks and triples are just too much for practical use..........

EDIT - I forgot to say : Use a long extension and a socket to spin the fork cap back on by hand. Then tighten away.... Otherwise you risk stripping the fork or cap :(

very true.. this is a daily 'driver' ( with the way my car has been running today i wish i could ride my trike everywhere) like i said earlyer i guess i was tought wrong when i first got into trike, i could nab the fork oil out of my cr125 forks since the bike is now stripped and seems no one wants good parts lol!!

i just dont want to cause more damage to it, and i see it running it the way they would could tweek something on a hard landing, or to much air could blow out the seals, i dont see any oil leaking from the tubes at all, so guessing the springs are worn

[Dirtcrasher]

You'll be fine and dandy with some spacers, just make sure they fit well.......

Snow here tomorrow!, I hope it's enough/not too much. Just enough to coat the track and I'll be very happy :D

[4cfed]

You'll be fine and dandy with some spacers, just make sure they fit well.......

Snow here tomorrow!, I hope it's enough/not too much. Just enough to coat the track and I'll be very happy :D

ok thanks. waiting for my buddy to get here to load up the 200x's

[harryredtrike]

i didnt see it covered.did it have fork oil?