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NewfieBish
11-30-2009, 04:34 PM
Hey guys, been working on my 250R lately, and I finally got my axle free of my bearing carrier, the bearings are completely trashed and I need to get new ones, but I got a dual row carrier, can I use four standard bearings as opposed to buying a new set of dual rows? (I already got 2 standard bearings, and was wondering if i could just buy 2 more say)

SWIGIN
11-30-2009, 06:04 PM
i wouldn't

for one thing, the bearing spacer tube might not be the right length.

another reason is, if that worked i would think it would be a common thing.

Mosh
11-30-2009, 06:27 PM
No.
4 regular bearings will not work.
Stacked together, they will be wider than the dual row bearings.
Like Swigin says, the tube will not fit, and the carrier itself is not recessed deep enough to stack 4 bearings like that.

KASEY
11-30-2009, 07:55 PM
one thing i have never seen touched on ,,, the actual bearing surface on the axle isn't as wide as a dual row bearing either,,,

deathman53
11-30-2009, 08:14 PM
you have to get dual row bearings, they are sold on e-bay pretty cheap. I don't know the name of who sells them, but bearings for a dual row bearings for a 250r, 450r, 400ex, 300ex and maybe more are the same. Doesn't matter too much on the brand of the carrier, all use the same bearings. Most of the newer bearings are sealed on both sides, you won't need to pump the carrier with grease if you use them.

jensenracing77
11-30-2009, 08:40 PM
one thing i have never seen touched on ,,, the actual bearing surface on the axle isn't as wide as a dual row bearing either,,,

your right but it don't matter. the barring life will be much longer than stock.

jensenracing77
11-30-2009, 08:46 PM
the barring is available at many hydraulic and industrial barring supply houses.they offer much better quality barrings than the China ones that come in them. they are most of the time cheeper also. it is the same barring as the front barring in older GM A/C compressor clutches. the front of the compressor that the belt goes on, but on the inside. i never tried an auto parts store but they may be able to get them for this reason.

NewfieBish
11-30-2009, 08:58 PM
hmm i see, there's alot of the dual row bearings on ebay, i guess ill get some there.. sometimes with my suzuki four wheeler id bring the old bearing to an industrial shop and they'd match up the bearing for me, but the bearings literally fell apart when i took the axle out of the carrier, it wasn't fit, the inner and outer races i had to grind clear of the axle to get the spacer out from in between them. I still need to get the outer racers out of the carrier, gonna have to use a dremel i guess.. man this bike was let go by the previous owner

jensenracing77
12-01-2009, 06:27 AM
hmm i see, there's alot of the dual row bearings on ebay, i guess ill get some there.. sometimes with my suzuki four wheeler id bring the old bearing to an industrial shop and they'd match up the bearing for me, but the bearings literally fell apart when i took the axle out of the carrier, it wasn't fit, the inner and outer races i had to grind clear of the axle to get the spacer out from in between them. I still need to get the outer racers out of the carrier, gonna have to use a dremel i guess.. man this bike was let go by the previous owner

when i get home from work i can get you the barring number is you want it. PM me to remind me.

Kintore
12-01-2009, 08:48 AM
Please post the number in here if you can for future reference.
Im going to need some as well.

Mosh
12-01-2009, 09:15 AM
The replacement number I have is a All Balls number.
Not sure if it crosses to a industry bearing, like Jensen speaks of, but figured I would throw it out there.

Part number is -907257- dual row bearings (2 required)
Seal number is -30-6125- matching seals (2 required)

These fit all aftermarket dual row carriers for
87-91 TRX 250X
85-89 250R,
93-09 300ex
99-09 400ex
04-09 TRX 450R
03-09 LTZ 400
04-09 YFZ 450

I get these bearings all the time for people, but I use All balls bearings because we are dealers for them.

I never have problems with them. My bearings are 2 years old in my 250R and still good.

corndawg
12-01-2009, 09:30 AM
The replacement number I have is a All Balls number.
Not sure if it crosses to a industry bearing, like Jensen speaks of, but figured I would throw it out there.

Part number is -907257- dual row bearings (2 required)
Seal number is -30-6125- matching seals (2 required)

These fit all aftermarket dual row carriers for
87-91 TRX 250X
85-89 250R,
93-09 300ex
99-09 400ex
04-09 TRX 450R
03-09 LTZ 400
04-09 YFZ 450

I get these bearings all the time for people, but I use All balls bearings because we are dealers for them.

I never have problems with them. My bearings are 2 years old in my 250R and still good.

i put all balls bearings in my 400 scrambler when i had it...they seemed to hold up great given the fact that polaris didnt know how to design the carrier/bearing size big enough to handle the weight of the thing

jensenracing77
12-01-2009, 06:57 PM
The replacement number I have is a All Balls number.
Not sure if it crosses to a industry bearing, like Jensen speaks of, but figured I would throw it out there.

Part number is -907257- dual row bearings (2 required)
Seal number is -30-6125- matching seals (2 required)

These fit all aftermarket dual row carriers for
87-91 TRX 250X
85-89 250R,
93-09 300ex
99-09 400ex
04-09 TRX 450R
03-09 LTZ 400
04-09 YFZ 450

I get these bearings all the time for people, but I use All balls bearings because we are dealers for them.

I never have problems with them. My bearings are 2 years old in my 250R and still good.

this 907257 part number will be used by many of the suppliers. it is also the number to the Federal Mogul barring that many automotive stores can get. this part number will most of the time be a China barring, including the Federal Mogul one. at one time i had the NSK number but can't find it. i believe that the NSK bearing is still made in USA. any of the USA bearings are better than the china ones and sad to say but the Japan bearings are better than USA bearings.

the dementions of the barring are,
D 62mm
d 40mm
B 20mm

KASEY
12-01-2009, 10:03 PM
6908 Is The Common Bearing Number...

jensenracing77
12-01-2009, 10:54 PM
6908 Is The Common Bearing Number...

6908 is the single row bearing number. it is 12mm wide.

KASEY
12-01-2009, 11:51 PM
yep my bad.. looked at the wrong number .................

thebutelr
06-05-2010, 03:31 PM
The replacement number I have is a All Balls number.
Not sure if it crosses to a industry bearing, like Jensen speaks of, but figured I would throw it out there.

Part number is -907257- dual row bearings (2 required)
Seal number is -30-6125- matching seals (2 required)

These fit all aftermarket dual row carriers for
87-91 TRX 250X
85-89 250R,
93-09 300ex
99-09 400ex
04-09 TRX 450R
03-09 LTZ 400
04-09 YFZ 450

I get these bearings all the time for people, but I use All balls bearings because we are dealers for them.

I never have problems with them. My bearings are 2 years old in my 250R and still good.

I am having trouble finding the seals with that part number, do you know of any place that sells these individually?

Mosh
06-05-2010, 08:11 PM
I am having trouble finding the seals with that part number, do you know of any place that sells these individually?
I usually have a set in stock, but sold them a few weeks ago.

Try Magic Racing in Michigan.
They have a 1 page ad in every Dirtwheels.