View Full Version : 200x Racer Build pics
xrider
11-25-2009, 09:15 PM
I figured I would post some pictures of the 200x I've been building. I raced this 200x at trike fest this year and won the motocross but split my frame, been rebuilding it since. I put on a like new frame, painted the motor, motor mounts, fork tubes, footpegs, and exhaust. I also rebuilt the forks and rear shock. Added a westcoast +2 swingarm and +4 durablue axle curtousy of shortline. I also put on a nos nasa front fork brace, a white bros hd rear shock spring, and a DID x-ring chain. Let me know what you guys think.
code200k
11-25-2009, 10:58 PM
nice build you got going there..them tires are meaty dang!
MonroeMike
11-25-2009, 11:01 PM
Nice work on the build, looks good.
atctim
11-25-2009, 11:03 PM
looks great. Should be some real nice 200Xs at TF next year. Sweet trick parts you got on there too!
shortline10
11-25-2009, 11:24 PM
Looking real good I def Like it :w00t:
xrider
11-25-2009, 11:40 PM
Thanks for good remarks guys! The bike also has a pk intake manifold and will be getting a 28 mm mikuni and an old school chain roller too here shortly. Ya the tires are pretty meaty lol, ill be losing the mudsharks for a set of 18" fast trekkers I have. This is one of two 200x builds I have in the works, once this one is complete I will be building a flat tracker. I have a missle engineering flat track kit for a 200x on the shelf that needs to be put to use.
i58829
11-26-2009, 09:40 AM
I love that bike, i looked at this last night and didn't pay too much attention to all of the details. I dont think i've ever seen a fork brace before, and the swingarm/rear end is by far the nicest one you can build for the early 200x. Very nice build, TC...
oscarmayer
11-26-2009, 10:01 AM
can you get some detailed photos of the extra parts liek fork brace and other stuff? I've ot seen oen on a triek and would be interested to see about mimicing it on my 200x bike I'm building myself.
what's the motor setup if ya don't mind me asking?
xrider
11-26-2009, 11:19 AM
The engine has a lightened flywheel and crank. A webcam 362 lift 270 duration, valve springs with aluminum retainers, hardwelded rockers, supertrapp exhaust with 12 disks, pk intake manifold, and 28 mm mikuni fs carb. Also has a wiseco high compression piston (have to check on the ratio), and mild porting. Ill attach some photos of the rarer parts here shortly. Thanks!
Yamaha_Rules69
11-26-2009, 11:31 AM
Sweet build. How much of a difference does the white bros shock spring make compared to to stocker? Much stiffer? Also, do you know if there was any difference in spring tensile strength between 83-84 (red springs) and the 85 (I believe had blue spring.) ?? Nice build, and keep up the good work!
xrider
11-26-2009, 12:19 PM
The white bros shock spring is much stiffer than stock, it's a rougher ride but it handles jumping alot better. I also added heavier front fork springs to balance it out. Not sure if the tensile strength is different between the red and the blue shock springs, Ive owned both of them and they have around the same travel range and stiffness.
Side Wayz
11-26-2009, 01:08 PM
I have my 200x would love to get some mods like that. very nice. I'll be tearing my down soon for the farm show in Harrisburg. I was thinking of selling it so I could get a 250r. But no luck so ill keep it and modify her up.
xrider
11-26-2009, 01:47 PM
Thanks! There is alot of mods that you can do for a 200x and plenty of aftermarket parts if you know where to look. Here is another picture with the chain roller and footpeg mounted.
shortline10
11-26-2009, 01:56 PM
Very cool aftermarket parts :drool: . Make sure the foot peg bolt is long enough after installing the tensioner , I think I told you about that before though:wondering :beer
xrider
11-26-2009, 02:36 PM
Ya you mentioned that about the footpeg bolt before. I added a bolt with about 3/8" more threads. :beer
this guy
11-26-2009, 03:11 PM
Love the fork brace, bet that thing will track through the whoops like a hero.:w00t: :drool:
xrider
11-26-2009, 03:47 PM
Just got done mounting the supertrapp exhaust. Here's some pics
leevarnado
11-26-2009, 09:02 PM
man thats a clean bike.loving that chain tensioner.the one im building has a few of them same mods.just won a supertrapp and hondaline 12v battery kit.the 83-85 200x's are starting to get real popular.
Side Wayz
11-27-2009, 01:19 PM
Cool! I'll be waiting for more updates. Thx.
harryredtrike
11-27-2009, 06:58 PM
going to be very cool when done,good job.
inv3ctiv3
11-28-2009, 03:50 AM
That's one sweet 200x!
Dirtcrasher
11-28-2009, 08:48 PM
If I forgot to say so before, this is looking great! I look forward to seeing what main this thing will take on, :lol:
It's an old school round mic 28 or?????
Love the Westcoast and other goodies :beer
xrider
11-28-2009, 08:56 PM
Thanks for the good comments guys! It's actually getting a new VM 28mm flat side mikuni. Have a couple more rare goodies for it yet too here shortly.
Side Wayz
11-28-2009, 09:08 PM
Your trike is coming 2 gether. I've been looking into cams, valves, stroker, piston, cam chain, and the work tobe done it is costly. With the info the fellas have been giving me and te sites provided looks like an easy grand. Trying to save up.But it's something I want and need to do. Nice job keep it up.
WIkid500
11-28-2009, 11:29 PM
Your trike is coming 2 gether. I've been looking into cams, valves, stroker, piston, cam chain, and the work tobe done it is costly. With the info the fellas have been giving me and te sites provided looks like an easy grand. Trying to save up.But it's something I want and need to do. Nice job keep it up.
Isn't it something what it costs to build a nice running 200x. Could have a Chevy 350 rebuilt with some nice parts for what a dang 200x costs. I have all the slips of what I have in mine and don't even want to think of adding all this crap up to see what it costs. Best way to do it is a little here a little there. Just keep piling the parts up when you have some extra cash and it will come together nice in the end.
Xrider, the 200x is looking real nice, keep us updated.
Side Wayz
11-29-2009, 01:19 AM
[QUOTE=WIkid500;809157]Isn't it something what it costs to build a nice running 200x. Could have a Chevy 350 rebuilt with some nice parts for what a dang 200x costs. I have all the slips of what I have in mine and don't even want to think of adding all this crap up to see what it costs. Best way to do it is a little here a little there. Just keep piling the parts up when you have some extra cash and it will come together nice in the end.
Indeed thats what I have to do start stock pile parts. My trike runs pretty well stock so when I got somecash earlier thisyear I bought plastics tank exhaust tires bars body sht to makeher look good. I kind of regret it wish I would of spent the1300.00 on the engine. But IMhappy she dont look like crap. Just have to the performance end now.:TrikesOwn
xrider
11-29-2009, 01:23 AM
That is the best way to do it. Ive been saving parts for this build for 3 years now, just have to pick up what you can when you can. and in the end you'll have a sweet trike.
oscarmayer
11-29-2009, 10:17 AM
lookin good man!
I've jsut assembled the motor on my monster 200x. i used a stocker head for now as i'm going to assemble the bike and ensure it runs and drives perfectly before dissamble. then I'm going to tear it completely down and start my build. it's going to be dark blue frame w/black plastics and chrome parts where applicable.
if I get it done before trike fest, I'll have you race it there. it's going to be a serious beast for sure! it's getting every trick done except stroked. CNC poritng and valving, larger valves, custom cam and hardened rockers, titanium retainers, 12:1 weisco piston with head shaved to bump it to 13:1. the works. ;)
i sourced a brapp clutch that'll work great too! so it's going to be one of the fastest 200xs ever done. but I'm not a racer so i'll need someone ro run it for me. *hint hint* ;)
xrider
11-30-2009, 06:49 PM
Sounds like you'll have a hell of a racer there. Keep me informed I could go for that :beer
xrider
12-20-2009, 05:33 PM
Added a 28mm round slide mikuni, ufo style number plate, NOS emgo twist throttle kit, scott grips, and a set of 80's NOS Answer chromoly handlebars. The tank will be on later this week it is getting cleaned right now. The tank is an old school white plastic IMS short track tank with tank scoop mounts. Forgot to mention previously that the forks have phase five fork springs in them. Hope you guys like.
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shortline10
12-20-2009, 05:40 PM
I thought you were going with the 28mm flat slide carb ? Little to tight ?
Lookin good .
xrider
12-20-2009, 05:48 PM
thanks! ya it was a little too tight, and i found a brand new 28mm round slide on my shelf last week when i was cleaning out the garage lol.
shortline10
12-20-2009, 05:56 PM
thanks! ya it was a little too tight, and i found a brand new 28mm round slide on my shelf last week when i was cleaning out the garage lol.
I like the power band of the round slide mikuni better myself , it seems to make more bottom end power were the flatslide is more like a 2 stroke power very little on low end then it takes off like mad:D .
Dirtcrasher
12-20-2009, 06:08 PM
^ EXACTLY what I found with my 28 flatslide mikey!!
Not much down low, but pulled hard on top.
Problem was, I could not start it in cold weather. Jumped that pilot to 35,40,45, 50 and 55 and it still wouldn't start cold. I would have worried about a flat spot later, but it wouldn't start. Once it was warm, you were all set. EDIT - (cold meaning 20 degrees)
Many people told me "you can't use a 2 stroke carb on a thumper" mainly due to the fuel enrichening circuit versus the butterfly on your average 4 stroke carb that cuts the air down.......
shortline10
12-20-2009, 07:28 PM
^ EXACTLY what I found with my 28 flatslide mikey!!
Not much down low, but pulled hard on top.
Problem was, I could not start it in cold weather. Jumped that pilot to 35,40,45, 50 and 55 and it still wouldn't start cold. I would have worried about a flat spot later, but it wouldn't start. Once it was warm, you were all set. EDIT - (cold meaning 20 degrees)
Many people told me "you can't use a 2 stroke carb on a thumper" mainly due to the fuel enrichening circuit versus the butterfly on your average 4 stroke carb that cuts the air down.......
I guess I dont have to worry about 20 degrees down here in south FL LOL :beer . I have a FS28mm on my sparks bike and it starts up just fine . Its been really cold today , a chilling 57 degrees burr. :w00t:
MonroeMike
12-20-2009, 08:37 PM
Nice looking build, so far.
xrider
02-27-2010, 03:06 PM
Been a while since I've updated so figured I would add some new pics. I added 18" fast trekkers to the rear, numbers to the number plate, an old school IMS plastic short track tank, and a NOS Honda bar pad snap on style. I am still waiting on the front tire and then it will be complete and I will upload higher quality final pictures.
shortline10
02-27-2010, 03:22 PM
Def looks like a racer now . If I go to trike fest this year I better be ready because your trike looks it . Nice I like it .
xrider
02-27-2010, 03:33 PM
Thanks Mike. Did you modify your steering stops on your 200x's with the short track? I'm debating on it, that tank has a lot more clearance than stock. Ya it will definitely be ready for trike fest this year. I have access to an atv Dyno so I'll have it dialed in well.
shortline10
02-27-2010, 03:40 PM
Thanks Mike. Did you modify your steering stops on your 200x's with the short track? I'm debating on it, that tank has a lot more clearance than stock. Ya it will definitely be ready for trike fest this year. I have access to an atv Dyno so I'll have it dialed in well.
My original racer I believe I trimmed the fork stops a bit . I use the 83-84 250r front end on mine and you wouldnt believe the difference when you hit the big jumps .
Dirtcrasher
02-27-2010, 05:00 PM
That trikes looking GREAT!! I think number plates just change everything............
And I KNOW that there are plenty of goodies on there. Still so glad that I met you on EBAY and was fortunate enough to get a few goodies off of you. My 200X is ported and WIDE!! :lol:
Nice job bud! Lots of talent on this board for sure :beer
tulsamike3434
02-27-2010, 05:51 PM
That looks great!
MonroeMike
02-27-2010, 06:07 PM
Sharp looking bike, the number plate's a nice touch.
xrider
02-27-2010, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the good remarks guys. Yeah the 250r front end will be an addition in the future, it currently has a set of NOS Phase Five HD fork springs up front that help a little bit, still nothing like the 250r set-up tho.
Dirtcrasher
02-27-2010, 09:48 PM
^ My god, Phase 5 even made fork springs?!!
Before I forget, (if you feel it's an upgrade) please set aside a crappy used spring that you have as long as the spring still has it's "gusto", you know whats up............... I like to jump and some I hit are fairly large, you get the picture...................
Pardon my ignorance, I've just been swamped (TRULY SWAMPED!!) but I believe it was you that had some rear shock springs that work on the 86/87 20X rear shock also?? I'm sorry, IDK which end is up or down right now with so much going on. I'd have to back up and see what you had said/posted or if was even you??
I'll blast it and PC it and the spring; It's about time I taught myself how to rebuild shocks anyhow. Unfortunately another 3WW member whom I gave some free (Banshee) parts to, could not set aside a couple hours to work with me on my 1st shock rebuild with him at my cost; I was just looking for his tips/tricks or guidance.
But, I've learned everything else on my own so far so F-it, I'll survive :beer: I don't give people things with expectations of reciprocation in the future; If thats the case then it is NOT A GIFT!!! Never give things away with expectations. The help would've been much appreciated though, but no big deal...........................I'll live.
Anyhow, please shoot me an email and I'll try to buy a spring from you. I do have some stuff kicking around for your trike??; Regardless, we'll figure something out that I can afford in my current situation but I'm a jumper and I do need a good tough spring from you.............
Regardless as I said before, you've done a fantastic job on this machine - THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Long live the ATC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yamaha_Rules69
02-27-2010, 10:12 PM
Dirtcrasher, you seem like a well experienced mechanic, and a step up machinist when it comes to these machines. Im sure rebuilding shocks will come very easy for you. I have rebuilt a couple shocks, and got some hints from some suspensonn technicians in the local shops to help me along the way. They are not as hard to do as everyone makes them out to be, and I wish the service manual should show how to take apart and rebuild the rear shock, and not just say to replace it. Once you take one apart, you will find it wasnt so bad. The hardest part if you ask me is most of the time the circlip. Good luck, and I know you will suceed!
shortline10
02-27-2010, 10:33 PM
^ My god, Phase 5 even made fork springs?!!
Before I forget, (if you feel it's an upgrade) please set aside a crappy used spring that you have as long as the spring still has it's "gusto", you know whats up............... I like to jump and some I hit are fairly large, you get the picture...................
Pardon my ignorance, I've just been swamped (TRULY SWAMPED!!) but I believe it was you that had some rear shock springs that work on the 86/87 20X rear shock also?? I'm sorry, IDK which end is up or down right now with so much going on. I'd have to back up and see what you had said/posted or if was even you??
I'll blast it and PC it and the spring; It's about time I taught myself how to rebuild shocks anyhow. Unfortunately another 3WW member whom I gave some free (Banshee) parts to, could not set aside a couple hours to work with me on my 1st shock rebuild with him at my cost; I was just looking for his tips/tricks or guidance.
But, I've learned everything else on my own so far so F-it, I'll survive :beer: I don't give people things with expectations of reciprocation in the future; If thats the case then it is NOT A GIFT!!! Never give things away with expectations. The help would've been much appreciated though, but no big deal...........................I'll live.
Anyhow, please shoot me an email and I'll try to buy a spring from you. I do have some stuff kicking around for your trike??; Regardless, we'll figure something out that I can afford in my current situation but I'm a jumper and I do need a good tough spring from you.............
Regardless as I said before, you've done a fantastic job on this machine - THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Long live the ATC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xfile was the one selling the heavy duty shock springs DC
xrider
02-28-2010, 12:23 AM
Yeah phase five made heavy duty fork springs, kind of hard to come by for a 200x tho, felt kinda bad using a NOS set. They actually made rear shock springs too, I have a NOS one in the garage, I'll see if I can dig it up and take a pic. This 200x has a White Bros rear shock spring on it which has been one of the best that I have tried on a 200x.
Dirtcrasher
02-28-2010, 03:02 PM
Y- RULES - Thanks for the words :beer
Shortline - Thank you. I get these guys all mixed up. We have ALLOT of members now and they're names are similar etc etc . Could you shoot me your # thru my email?? I think I told you awhile back I had some stuff to talk with you about. No hurry, nothing earth shattering :lol: I just want your opinion on some stuff...............
ricky200x
02-28-2010, 11:33 PM
where did you get the trick parts for your x? im thinking of soupin mine up a little but cant find any parts for it
xrider
03-01-2010, 03:45 PM
I've actually been collecting aftermarket parts for this build and my next build (missle engineering flat track 200x) for about 5 years. It takes time to come across a lot of the parts, keep a good eye on ebay, craigslist, and get to know some people on the forum and you'll be well on your way. If your just looking for engine components, Powroll, webcam, and megacycle still make good performance parts for the 200x.
xrider
03-26-2010, 10:03 PM
Just finished up the 200x racer. Let me know what you guys think.
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WIkid500
03-26-2010, 10:10 PM
WOW that thing is sweet! I like the swing arm and axle. How wide is it?
dcreel
03-26-2010, 10:22 PM
That looks awesome. Great job!!
Shorty
03-26-2010, 10:48 PM
NICE!! So where did you get those fenders?
Kintore
03-27-2010, 07:44 AM
Dang man! that is one hot lil X! you are going to LOVE them trekkers!
Any video? Cant wait to see it at TF man. bang up job for sure!
shortline10
03-27-2010, 08:05 AM
Whats up with the kill switch wire :wondering LOL . A nice set or SRP low pro fenders would really look good on that:beer . A bapp case saver is a must if your not gonna use a stock one .
RodKnockRacing
03-27-2010, 08:17 AM
very nice bike i like it
Bryan Raffa
03-27-2010, 08:29 AM
NICE X!! Heat them pegs up with a torch and bend them up..
xrider
03-27-2010, 10:03 AM
Thanks for all the good comments guys! The rear end is a plus 4 durablue with 300ex hubs so that will give you an idea of the width. No videos yet but they will be coming soon, the trike is off now to the guy who built my engine. He has an atv dyno and is going to tune it in on the dyno for the new 28mm carb. Good spot on the kill switch wire Mike lol, I forgot to tie it up before the pics. I agree tho SRP low pros would be perfect on this thing, hope to have some sort of low pro rear fender on it by trikefest will be looking for some here shortly. Thanks for the tip on the pegs Raffa, they will adjusted as soon as I get it back. Thanks again to everyone on here who helped me out with parts on this build!
MonroeMike
03-27-2010, 01:51 PM
Looks great, nice job.
xrider
04-23-2010, 05:12 PM
Have a little update for you guys. I got a call from the guy who is tuning the 200x. He was able to get 22.3 hp on the best run thus far, with more tuning still needed. Should have it back within a week or two and i'll give a ride report and try to paste the dyno charts and the post them in here.
shortline10
04-23-2010, 05:47 PM
Have a little update for you guys. I got a call from the guy who is tuning the 200x. He was able to get 22.3 hp on the best run thus far, with more tuning still needed. Should have it back within a week or two and i'll give a ride report and try to paste the dyno charts and the post them in here.
Thats pretty good HP for a 200x .
83ATC185S
04-23-2010, 06:09 PM
that is good power for a built 200x. a stock 350x only has 27hp
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