Beater Big Red Project! Updated!

[MudBug]

there's a guy I know just up the road from me who bought two big red 250's both 1985's. he realized he didnt want 2 and is selling this one.

this poor girl needs a choke cable, seat recovered and the electric start or reverse isnt working. the motor runs very strong. good compression and power. I drove it today for about 20 mins and found out everything I ned to know. when i shake the bike the back left tire kinda shakes. Im thinking the hub is loose or the bearing is gone. it has a plow hook up and a skidplate underneath. Its a rust bucket but im willing to take it on if my parents buy it for me for an early xmas gift :P so anyway, heres some pics of what she looks like now. BTW he is charging 500 because that is what he paid and he dont want to lose money. its a fair price IMO.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/Big%20Red/th_forsale002.jpg (http://s801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/Big%20Red/?action=view&current=forsale002.jpg)
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[MudBug]

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/Big%20Red/forsale001.jpg

also forgot to mention that the battery does not work but the headlight do. The front tire is as bald as bologna skin , but he is giving two decent tires with the bike. I know a guy who recovers seats for 50 bucks. The fenders arent even bolted to the rack so that makes her look droopy FYI

[MudBug]

well I bought it today! the main problem with her is that there is a custom - crappy made header on it. the flange is tight to the head with no leaks, but the header itself is broken free of the flange! so he has been running this for a while. thank god he didnt ruin the valves. I done a few things to it today. adjusted valves, cleaned carb and air filter. still makes the ticking noise but i know it is just from the header being broke. a few things need to be tightened up. and she will be a good woods bike. oil change tommorow also. I will have more pics up.

[MonroeMike]

Congrats on the new (to you) bike.

[daniel_250r]

nice bike but holy rust! better get you self a decent sandblaster

[AutoXer]

sweet buy congrats

[MudBug]

I have a pretty good sandblaster already and a paint gun, so when I get the front rack straightened out and painted and all that it will look much better. there is one spot on the rear frame where it is rusted out, another weld job I guess. I will have more pics with progress. thanks for the good feedback guys! :TrikesOwn

[harryredtrike]

decent pick up,you guys pay a little more up there but fair.clean her up and show us more.

[MudBug]

some more work done to the big red today. I realized that the exhaust studs on the engines are shot. the threads go about half way, and from the header being loose it must have vibrated and wore the threads down closer to the engine. so even if they are tight they will only go half way. so we are working on getting that out. going to take the head off tommorow to drill them out and re-thread them. I checked the hubs, suspension and brakes. The rear brakes are in great shape. those two phillips head screws came out without a problem. she just neds brake shoes now. One more thing I noticed is that the swimgarm is loose when I shake the bike. is this a real bad sign? can you just tighten it up without replacing bearings etc? switched the rims around to the correct way, and rust checked a bunch of stuff. here is where I'm at. also a pic of my garage/workshop. check out what this guy done for the footpeg mount. I never thought of doing it this way.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/Big%20Red%20Progress/work001.jpg
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:naughty: :beer

[MonroeMike]

Good size shop, looks like a quonset hut.

[MudBug]

its a steel dome garage. me and my dad built that loft ourselves, its now 16 X 16 and it doesnt take up any room on th bottom. it sure is a good place to work, tons of tools also.

[ATC4ever!]

Nice " Man Cave" MudBug! I'm known for taking pieces of crap and bringing them back to life but I think you certainly got your work cut out for you on that Big Red:wondering I guess it's worth it though cause it's a HONDA:w00t: and its a Big Red:w00t: Good Luck!

[MudBug]

its actually not that much to get running smooth again. the engine is good and has better compression than my other one. but she leaks a bit and we already have gaskets for it and we are working at that today. frame needs one weld near the back. might replace that small section with new pipe. after some cleaning and paint you'll be suprised what she will look like. I'm sure as hell not going to let another trike go to waste, she's in good hands now! :)

:TrikesOwn

[MudBug]

Got the top end of the motor off today. putting new gaskets in and fixing the exhaust studs. anyone know much about the swingarm. it has some play where it pivots on the frame. can you just tighten it? take a look at the rust on the rear frame! going to replace that section I guess. took a pic of the shed from the outside. any feedback is appreciated! :)

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[MudBug]

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[DeePa]

if you're gonna make it nice, id buy another frame and get it painted up nice and start from there

[MudBug]

im not trying to restore it. if I was I would have used one of my other two BR's. i'm just trying to get this one in good running and working order for towing wood, plowing snow etc. once the engine is done i'll just get the welder to get the frame structurally sound if you know what I mean. :)

[MudBug]

some more work done on the BR today. got the seized exhaust stud out. it was in there real good. even after drilling a hole and using an easy-out, it just cracked the easy-out. but after some grinding and welding and twisting we finally got it free. shoved the rocker box cover, and cylinder in my parts cleaner. (that thing is awesome!) they are soaking for the night and tommorow ill dry them and add some nice paint. all is left is to...

1. get the 2 broken bolts out of the cylinder
2. paint
3. weld frame
4. put on my decent tires on the back and a new one for the front.
5. attempt to fix swingarm bearings and forks
6. Oil change (engine & rear end)

soon enough boys!

[daniel_250r]

nice, i just bought a parts cleaner for my rebuild its paid for its self thats for sure!! mines a 5 gallon with electric pump no more spending hours cleaning parts

[MudBug]

well im not exactly sure the capacity but we put in 10 gallons and the sucker was less than half full. do yours have the brush that shoots out the liquid? mine do. and several comparptments for laying your small parts and the like. I'll get a pic tommorow

[MonroeMike]

You didn't waste anytime tearing that down.

That building is nice, wish I had a big shop like that.

[MudBug]

thanks MonroeMike. Im making good time with her thats for sure. this comnig thursday I will only of had it a week. Im hoping she is together and running this weekend or next week. I wish I could show you what the shop looks like without all the junk!

[MudBug]

got the top end out of the cleaner today and they are dried and ready for paint. I decided to take off the crankcase covers and do them as well, b/c everything on the engine has a 1/2 inch of oil and sludge on it. The covers were hard to get off but when I did, I saw a broken bolt. (this is on the left side) near the gearshift assembly. I dont think I broke it because I never touched it. when I got the cover off, it was just lying there. I checked the diagram on bike bandit and it said it was a gearshift spindle .......$89!!!!! this has got to be a misprint. its only a small bolt and I thihnk it hooks onto the gearshift somhow. any ideas what is it? well, everything else went good anyway. heres a few pics of my parts cleaner, the new exhaust studs and other things. and of course the broken bolt.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/More%20Big%20Red/abc001.jpg
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the broken bolt. WTF IS IT?
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[MudBug]

another view of how I found the bolt
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my helper / parts stealer! (he ran away with my camshaft in his mouth! :lol:
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/More%20Big%20Red/benji005.jpg

[MudBug]

do anyone know what this bolt is? I need help...:wondering

[MonroeMike]

Don't have a Big Red, so I can't help there.

I do have a suggestion though. Next time clean the engine before you tear it apart. Gotta be hard to work with all that crude on everything and it's gonna get inside.

Nice looking pup you have there.

[mmiguy2103]

that bolt i believe is the bolt for the return spring on the shift lever. i had to buy one for my last 250sx i did. they are like $7 i think from Honda

loosk good bro but little tip go buy some engine degreaser and use a pressure washer befor you go cracking the engine in the frame liek that keeps everything a little cleaner inside and out. \

but looks like a decent buy keep posting pics!

[brapp]

nice lookin project, if it ran it was worth it. i wanan find a nice 250 big red soemday soon.

[MudBug]

she ran but needed some work. I only realized how dirty the engine was after I had the topend off. I'm doing all i can for dirt not to get in at this point, I only took the rag our of the base to take pics.

[Woodsrider]

24652-HA0-000 is the Honda part number for that pin. It's a hardened steel pin that is notorious for coming loose in these engines. After they have been loose for a while, they usually break. The only good news that I might have is that if it was in fact loose, it should be easier to extract the rest of the pin. Good luck. BTW, the part shows a price of about $5 US. You might consider using some blue Lok-Tite on the new part.

[MudBug]

thanks woodsrider! thats a great help. when I bought it I noticed the shifting was a little akward , so maybe this caused it. I'll order a new one when I order an exhaust gasket. :)

[MudBug]

well Woodsrider, you called it :) I stuck in a flat screwdriver and without even any force it spun out and the screwdriver didnt even have much grip. good. so thats one less thing I have to drill out. I'll keep you guys updated. next up: PAINT!! :naughty:

[MudBug]

got the top end painted and shes almost ready to plop back in. same with the side crankcase covers. they didnt come out as good because i never spent much time sanding them, just need those two broken head bolts out now. ill do that later on. also, under the toolbox lid on the back, there was an owners manual holder, ive never seen one of these before. did they come stock?
top end before...
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after...
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Not bad for spray bombing, am I right? :naughty:

now whats left to do:

-get bolts out of head and order new ones.
-order the shifter bolt that was broken.
-put it back together and find out how to do the timing.
-move on to frame and tires when shes running good.

how do you fix the timing?

[daniel_250r]

you just line up the marks on the flywheel and on the cam sprocket/head. so flywheel at T. cam sprocket with mark pointing towards the mark on the head. and cam lobes pointing up i believe correct me if wrong someone.

[lndy650]

cam lobes down...

[MonroeMike]

Have you read the manual?

http://72.52.143.80/~trikes/Manuals/ATC%20manuals/atc250es-85-87servicemanual.pdf

[Thorpe]

Rusty is a good name for that red! I paid 450 for mine, wasnt as rusty, but was beat pretty hard when I got it... Just gotta apply the decals to finish it off now... picked it up about 6 months ago...

[oldtime3wheeler]

I might have an extra header laying around if your interested.

[posty2100]

how did you paint the topend and side cases? just hand sand and use like heat resistant spray paint? I have been looking into doing a job like that.

[MudBug]

just sanded using a rough sandpaper, and then a smooth one after. I used Tremclad High Heat Enamel for all parts. I used it on other engine parts before and it worked great. make sure you get ann the oil and grease off the engine before you attempt to paint it. good luck! :)

[MudBug]

oldtime3wheeler, I think I have mine fixed well enough, but we'll see when its running. how much would you charge?

[markfoxracing15]

that bike ant too bad man good project some thing to do ne ways well mine was rusted off in the back just like urs cause theres a bigger pipe put on over the pipe in mine which i might take out and put the right size pipe back in to make it look right well good luck shouldnt take to much work to get it up and running and looking good

[MudBug]

yeah, the top end is going back in now, slowly but surely. just waiting on a few seals for the kickstart and shifter and the new bolts to come in and to pick up some oil. should run like a top.

[Jonpin]

Id give my first born for that shop.

[MudBug]

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should this bolt be tightened, it is very loose and it spins counter-clokwise to tighten up. should I tighten it?
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more cuts...
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[daniel_250r]

the more i see of it the less i think its worth 500 bones

[MudBug]

I didnt realize how much work she needed until I tore her down. but i'm up to the challenge. after new oil, gaskets for the crankcase covers and the bolts that were broke, im going to move on to swingarm bearings and then she should be a decent rideable bike. but the work never ends.

[Thorpe]

Couldnt help but notice you put your cam in dry??? You should really put some cam grease on that before you turn it over....

[RudeDog666]

Cool "Knuckle Busting Rusty" you've got going on there. :lol:

If you don't bust you're knuckles open once in a while it's not a project!

[MudBug]

I just threw it together to see what it looked like, im not planning on turning it over. yeah my knuckles are after taking a few smacks. its going to be hard to play darts today!

[MudBug]

bump. Anyone know if i should tighten that bolt?

[daniel_250r]

i think it holds the centrifigul clutch on and is supposed to be staked as well

[MudBug]

what does staked mean? sorry if that sounds dumb

[daniel_250r]

theres a little knotch on the shaft and you are supposed to pound in the thin part of the nut so it doesnt come loose thats the way it is on the 200's

[Northman]

looks like a 85 250es with a 250sx engine black? or just paint

[MudBug]

the engine was spray-bombed by the P.O while it was still in the bike, and he sprayed it over the oil and dirt, so It looked like garbage. the top end and side covers is what I painted myself correctly.

[MudBug]

no that nut is not staked. any more ideas? It wasnt even hand-tight. im thinking it should be tightened because there is nothing stopping the nut from vibrating right off.

[bad350]

yes tighten it it should be backwards threads

[MudBug]

thanks, and yes, it is.

[MudBug]

some updates. got the top of the forks off and realized it was missing two bearings and thats why it had so much play. replaced those. sandblastd them and painted them black. should be a bit of a change from all red. The parts are soon going to be in so she should be up and running this week.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/october031.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/october027-1.jpg
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http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/october032.jpg

[Kwattro]

Looks like a good project and you're doing a great job. I'm surprised you didn't pressure wash it before you started work though.

[Thorpe]

2 words... Surface preperation...

[MudBug]

I know, I know. Ive been kicking myself for that ever since I cracked her open. But she will be clean on the inside when I assemble her. I cant wait to hear it running!!

[MudBug]

still waiting for the parts, and I realized whats wrong with the swingarm (also causing the left rear tire to be too close to the frame) they must have replaced the bearings before, and they tightened the left bolt up th whole way first. so now there is a big gap on the right where the swingarm pivots. so I need to loosen the left bolt and tighten the right. maybe the bearings arent shot. also noticed when i tip her to the side i can hear a bearing rooooooooooooooool down to the other side in the axle. weird huh?

[MudBug]

bump. why would a bearing be rolling around in the axle? im confused as hell on this one. gonna have to tear the axle out.

[MudBug]

been delayed for a while because I cant get the right crankcase cover back on. Its the reverse lever i'm having trouble with. The spring stays on, I manuever it when im putting the cover on. The cover can pop all the way down but the reverse lever will not move on the outside. I'm stumped but ill keep trying. BTW thanks for all the help guys

[MudBug]

Ive decided that working on the engine while its still in the bike is not going well, so I'm taking it out. I have to crack the topend back open to fix rings, and this way I can clean the engine a little better. And while im at it A can clean, weld and paint the frame. This bike is taking more time than I thought it would, but its only because I have no free time myself. Ill keep you posted!

[MudBug]

heres where I am as of today :

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november023.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november024.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november025.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november026.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november027.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november028.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november029.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november030.jpg

Shouldn't there be a spring (shock) here?
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november031.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november032.jpg

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/november033.jpg

[MudBug]

Instead of leaving the reverse mechanism on the cover, I got it off and am installing it that way. I think its alot easier but thats just me. Got a mechanic shop to get it apart. So tommorow, im hoping that the cover goes on and then I can just button up the timing. Then, on to some frame work!

[matt86200x]

nice work, sandblast then rhino liner the frame

[MudBug]

Thanks! I am going over the frame with a wire wheel. (best invention ever) and getting it to a nice smooth finish, and then edog it as best as I can. Its only going to be a rider, so no powdercoating required here. I just hope I dont get bashed for the spraypaint. Pics soon...

[MudBug]

well guys I got some more done. got that bad part of the frame welded, but still got to wrap it on the bottom with new metal. most of it primed, but now its too cold to paint, so I may have to wait till spring unless it warms up again :( but heres a few shots of how she sits now.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december002.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december005.jpg

:TrikesOwn

[MudBug]

well im almost done the spray bombing. its not turning out too bad, even considering that its like -5 out! But im being forced to get it back together in a hurry because dad's sick of all my trike parts scattered about the garage. So heres a few pics how she sits now.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/frame009.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/frame010.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/frame011.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/frame012.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/frame013.jpg

[litebulblsc]

I am sitting here trying to figure out why Honda put the big red's rear suspension inside the frame, but the sx on the outside?
Frame must be wider for the wide seat?

[MudBug]

yeah that is kind of strange. I think it would be better mounted outside the frame myself. But th SX frame is alot different so maybe thats why

[theiizz08]

lookn good thats goin to be one of the nicest "beeter" work around the yard trikes

[MudBug]

yeah, she'll look alot better than she did thats for sure!

[Tecate250]

:lol: Thought this was project beater big red. Looks nice but I find the reds needs to be beat up a bit to totally enjoy them. Not caring about breaking the allready cracked plastics. Every big red/sx Ive seen has no brakes. Does yours? Hell even electric start is a luxuray item. Looks good.:D

[MudBug]

she will probably have front brakes. the back ones are too much to mess with just yet. electric start will come after I get her running again

[MudBug]

Been a while. Ive been working on the rear rack mostly and im not going to run a front one until I find one local. Got the painted frame on wheels and now the motor is in. Im still figuring out the wiring :mad: but she is coming along. For one the fenders need to be fixed up. Theres 3 different shades of red on this bike.

Still to do:

Recover seat, get tubes for rear tires and put a better one on front, get battery, new grips, finish wiring, clean up fenders, and then fire this sucker up. :naughty:

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december013.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december015.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december016.jpg
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http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december024.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/december025.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike003.jpg

[MudBug]

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike004.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike005.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike006.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike008.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike009.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike010.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/trike011.jpg

Thats all for now, hey guys should I paint the rack or put rhino liner on it?

[matt86200x]

rhino liner, i did that to both my sx racks. Looks good and takes some abuse

[harryredtrike]

id go with the rhino line,if you have on hand

[matt86200x]

How was is connecting the shaft drive? i bought an 86 br bike complete but the rear end was taken off for storage apparently. Iv done a 200es rearend once and it was not easy due to frame clearance.
If you could kinda run me threw the steps of how you put the motor in and connected it to the rear end. did you replace all the seals in the process.

[MudBug]

How was is connecting the shaft drive? i bought an 86 br bike complete but the rear end was taken off for storage apparently. Iv done a 200es rearend once and it was not easy due to frame clearance.
If you could kinda run me threw the steps of how you put the motor in and connected it to the rear end. did you replace all the seals in the process.

well when I pulled the motor, the front driveshaft came with it. I didnt bother taking it off the output shaft from the motor so when I was done I just manuvered the engine back in the bike with the driveshaft back down in the rear end. What seals are you talking about?

[MudBug]

not really an update. Just showing you how she has sat for the past month. Damn wiring.

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/004.jpg
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/005.jpg

I used the maiers off this beater on my "better" big red
http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy299/brandonploughman/008.jpg

[mrfixitup]

Man it is coming along great~ Please keep us posted on how the wiring turns out and plus we have to see you riding this thing and how much power it has!

Andy

[MudBug]

Man it is coming along great~ Please keep us posted on how the wiring turns out and plus we have to see you riding this thing and how much power it has!

Andy

Thanks alot. I am going to pick up a new coil and get my grounds figured out and hopefully I get spark. Thats all im waiting for. There will be videos of riding it dont worry! :lol:

[walleyedude]

Wow, one heck of a rebuild. This will be one nice machine when you are done!

[MudBug]

thanks for the good feedback. This is more or less my "experience" build. Being 16 With two other BR 250's, if this works out, ill know how to do the other ones correctly. (With help from you guys of course) :naughty: