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mike84bigred
09-07-2009, 11:30 AM
Got a 85 250sx. Have to do the swingarm bearings soon on it. I pulled the dustcap off it today and was baffled immediatly. My repair manuel says there supposed to be a 17mm allen bolt in there and all I see is a 17mm regular bolt with barelyanything to grab on to. I was starting to round it a bit just putting a little force on it. Is this normal? How do I pul it off?

Dirtcrasher
09-07-2009, 01:09 PM
A pic would be great :)

It's usually an internal hex hole and I use a bolt I welded a bar onto......

chris200x
09-07-2009, 01:19 PM
thats a 15 or 17 mm head on that swinger bolt. I just welded a lugnut to a bolt and turned it out with a rachet. (the correct allen wrench will cost a fortune.) You gotta loosen up that outer nut before you can do that..

Remove the rear shock,,, Disconnect the rubber boot and slide the drive shaft forward,, and the entire swinger comes off on an angle towards the left side if memory serves me correctly..

soak everything down with kroil or pb blaster a day or two before hand.. ;)

mike84bigred
09-07-2009, 01:22 PM
Is this how its suppose to be? Dosen't look like it form what the book is talking about.

Dirtcrasher
09-07-2009, 01:58 PM
WOW!!

Have fun getting that one out!!

Somebody jammed a nut in the center, it should come out with some heat and beating on it. Your gonna need a big punch to drive that outer ring free......

Soak it and heat it with oxy/acet if possible.

mike84bigred
09-07-2009, 06:17 PM
So its not attached to anything? Whats holding it in there?

chris200x
09-07-2009, 06:29 PM
rust!!!!!!!!!! :D


soak it down a few days with a good penetrant.. try loosing the outside nut first (Reverse threads I think)

If you can't get that inner nut out you'll have to weld a rod to it to get it to break free I think.?

keep us posted. I should have some pics posted on here when I did my swinger. u may find something useful if you search. ;)

mmiguy2103
09-08-2009, 07:44 AM
lmao yea i have seen this many times. the swingarm bearing are one of the most over looked maintence parts on your trike. your going to need heat and lots of it. and a BIG F%&$ing HAMMER. and some punches. if its soo bad it might have to be destroyed to get it out. i hhave had to cut many out befor cause they were too rusted for heat to do anything.

keep in mine that the pivit bolt and the lock nut are only about $42 online.

oscarmayer
09-08-2009, 10:04 AM
you could consider using staged drill bits and start drilling it out 1 size at a time.\

it'll be expensive if you don't have drill bits that big already.

also talk to a local shop. maybe they'll remove it for a $100 fee on both sizes. trust me that $100 is way better than the time and effort your about to spend.

RoadRacer 831
09-09-2009, 05:00 AM
thats a 15 or 17 mm head on that swinger bolt. I just welded a lugnut to a bolt and turned it out with a rachet. (the correct allen wrench will cost a fortune.) You gotta loosen up that outer nut before you can do that..

Remove the rear shock,,, Disconnect the rubber boot and slide the drive shaft forward,, and the entire swinger comes off on an angle towards the left side if memory serves me correctly..

soak everything down with kroil or pb blaster a day or two before hand.. ;)

I bought a socket set that included the 17mm allen, something like this:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98229
$15 is not bad.

honda250sx
09-09-2009, 03:54 PM
You need this tool from honda.

Not a big punch, or a big hammer...

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/JIMS%20SX%20BUILD%20PART%201/DSCN3613.jpg

Dirtcrasher
09-09-2009, 04:26 PM
^ As much as I love you Fro......

I've only had to take a few of these off in my life and Mr Punch works just fine :D Then again, you have to know what hurts and what helps :lol:

If I could actually make ANY MONEY working on things!!, I'd buy plenty of these nice proper tools :beer

Honestly, without heat, IDT that puppies gonna budge myself.........

oscarmayer
09-09-2009, 08:53 PM
where can I get a set of those tools? I like collecting tools!

Dirtcrasher
09-09-2009, 10:21 PM
^ Awwwwwww, sorry bud but you have to know how to use them :D....... shens

mike84bigred
09-13-2009, 10:37 PM
Where do I get one of those tools? The book said I would need one, but I never thought they would still make them. Hook me up

RoadRacer 831
09-16-2009, 03:14 AM
You need this tool from honda.

Not a big punch, or a big hammer...

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i151/brauerpower/JIMS%20SX%20BUILD%20PART%201/DSCN3613.jpg

I used a regular socket to make this tool. Just take a socket with the same circumference as the lock nut and use a Dremel tool to cut out slots in the edge of the socket to match the nut. Cheap and easy.

mike84bigred
09-17-2009, 05:37 PM
I got it all with the allen wrench. Everything came out