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MR ATC
07-29-2003, 11:00 AM
i'm looking at buying some new track (mx) tires. for years i've used turf tammers and have always liked them. i even compared them to holeshots and i still prefure the tammers. however i have not tried anything else newer that has come out. does anyone have any experiance with the following tires and what is your opinion
turf tammers
knarly (kenda)
klaw (kenda)
i've tried, fast treckers, holeshots, razors, domminators,...nope
i'm leaning towards the knarly
ATC crazy
07-29-2003, 11:56 AM
I like the looks of the Klaw XCR's. The Knarly's would probably get better traction in the corners though.
*My first choice would've been the Holeshot XCT :rolleyes: But they are heavy...
Dynofox
07-29-2003, 07:52 PM
I haven't tried the others but i'm very impressed with the turf tamers on my Z. They don't cost that much and hook up great, works for me! :D
Billy Golightly
07-29-2003, 11:28 PM
Honestly Bill, and you've probably already ran these before, but out of all the tires I've used for MX like conditions, and anywheres else, the stock TRX250R tires seem to work extremely well.
Wickedfinger
07-29-2003, 11:37 PM
.... I know that on those Kendas besides the tread pattern being different from each other .... one is a much softer compound than the other - but I'll be damned if I know which is which.
350Kris
07-29-2003, 11:48 PM
Bill, I was looking at getting Holeshot XCTs.....why did you like the Turf Tamers better???
MR ATC
07-30-2003, 12:35 AM
well all the holeshots and copies (domminator, razor) i tried actually got too much traction for a trike. it causes a lot more wheel stand and high side in the corners. turf tammers get pretty good forword traction and they slid real well with little wheel stand or high siding.
i do know this what works on a trike does not necesarally work on a quad and visa versa. quads have a lighter weight bias in the rear then do trikes. therefore they need a tire that grabs more for traction whereas a trike has more weight the same tire will get even more traction and sometimes too much can be bad like in the turns.
i like the look of the knarly it has a good knob design and spacing with horizontal pattern good for sliding. the only problem is i need a 18" tire and they only come in 20". the klaw looks like it will get to much traction and the diaganal pattern is not the best for sliding a trike, but it comes in 18"
i'll probably end up just sticking to custom grooved turf tammers.
last year at haspin Trike had holeshots on his Z400 and i had 20" tammers on my 350X it was real muddy and wet that real slippery greasy type of mud. i was walking right up the hills and his quad was having all types of traction problems one hill it took him over 10 attempts to get over. and it was not because of his skills or the quad but a lack of traction.
NOS_350X
07-30-2003, 12:41 AM
GBC Mud Shark's look good. I havent used these but i rode a blaster with them and they hooked up good all around.
MR ATC
07-30-2003, 12:49 AM
thats nice but again i'm not interested how they look or work on a golf cart. i am looking for actuall experiance on a trike.
MR ATC
07-30-2003, 12:51 AM
Honestly Bill, and you've probably already ran these before, but out of all the tires I've used for MX like conditions, and anywheres else, the stock TRX250R tires seem to work extremely well.
agreed but i need 18" (mx size)
350Kris
07-30-2003, 08:07 PM
Bill, so you recommend Turf Tamers for a 350x (used mostly for trail riding, XC, etc)?
roger86200x
07-30-2003, 08:17 PM
I run Dunlop kt877 20x10-9 on my 86 200x..... they work GREAT in the mud and they are even better for speed and taking corners fast! they clean off fast and they are lower profile tires so you can get more speed rathen than power....but they work great and I would definately buy another st if I need to!!!!! plus they LOOK awesome! (in my opinion) lol Here are a few pics of them on my 86 200x....
Bill, you know you can't beat the Turf Tamers. :D
MR ATC
07-30-2003, 09:55 PM
Bill, so you recommend Turf Tamers for a 350x (used mostly for trail riding, XC, etc)?
for trail riding ? no. i've used them in the woods and in certain conditions they are good. but they do not wear good. nor would i pick them as my sole tire. if i had to pick one all around trail tire for a 350X...20" kenda vipers.
Billy Golightly
07-30-2003, 09:58 PM
What about some lawn mower tires like the old school racers use to use? Not enough hookup?
What about some lawn mower tires like the old school racers use to use? ...
Good ol' Carlisle Turf-Savers!! :D
TimSr
07-31-2003, 09:24 AM
I started running Turf Tamers on the track, because everybody else was running them, but like you, I find that they hook up way too much on the track, on a trike. They work great on a quad though! Ive also entered the search for the right track tire for a trike, that will allow you to break it loose in the corners. The best I have ever run is the Dunlaps I am running now. This is not because they are a great tire, but because the knobs are rounded and worn out. They are supposed to be a flat profile tire, but look rounded because they have been squeezed on to 6" wide rims. They have worked great and even allow me to holeshot well without wheelieing. So I guess my answer would be, the best track tire for a trike is a flat profile tire some guy has decided is too worn out to run on his quad any longer. The other option I had considered but never tried (Im too cheap) was using a flat track style tire such as Duro HF245 or something like that.
350Kris
07-31-2003, 09:46 AM
I always thought the Kenda Vipers were a little heavy....I used to run them on my old 250SX. You think they are?
MR ATC
07-31-2003, 02:32 PM
I always thought the Kenda Vipers were a little heavy....I used to run them on my old 250SX. You think they are?
not on a 350X. out of all the tires i've tried on a 350X i like them the best these are the tires i compared them to:
turf tammers
all-tracks
fast treckers
buckshot mudders
rawhide 3
whooly boogers and copies
stock 85/86 250R
hole shots
razors
domminators
out of all these ( and i few i'm sure i forgot) the 20" vipers were the best all-around tire for me in my conditions. they don't slide as well as some but the traction (hillclimbs/ mud ect) they get is great and i like to rail turns more then sliding when i'm in the woods.
Tim Sr. you must have misread i love how turf tammers slide and the forword traction is acceptable. i was just trying to find out about some of the new tires that our out i haven't tried yet. turf tammers are one of my favorite tire.
oh and by the way, about your choice of tires, i know who to call when i sell my used tires. they might have too much tread for you when you first get them but they'll be close to how you like them.
Dirtcrasher
07-31-2003, 07:10 PM
There not on your list but the Bandits XC's on my SX slide and seem to grab just right, but lets not sugar coat it - it barely has the horsepower to lift the front on a dry surface with slicks! However they wear like iron and are as tough as nails. The Dirt Devils I also run do not slide worth a sh!t and look like there gonna wear out fairly quick. Soon as the 250R is up and running I'll be happy to try both on that and give a report - in the mean time just forward those turf tamers to me for complete accurate testing!
ATCnut
08-01-2003, 08:38 PM
Bill.
Have you ever tried the OHTSU MR501 radial on a 350X? I put a set on mine, and really like them for a all around knobby. Since they are 20" tires, I replaced the 13 on the front with a 14
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