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greythorn3
07-31-2009, 04:37 AM
How can i fix my brakes? i went riding a few weeks ago and almost ended my life because i dont have brakes, well sun i am going riding again without brakes, they seem to grab a slight ammount but not much, how can i get them to perform enough to slow or stop me? i have the handle bar adjuster turned all the way out. help please

Ray
rdlsz24
07-31-2009, 07:40 AM
Have you tried new brake shoes?

Rob
juggaloclownz18
07-31-2009, 08:32 AM
I dont know about your 185, but my 200e has adjusters for both the rear and front, it tightens the cable, you should see it on there, one is in the back where the cable comes in for the rear and the other is on the front brake where the cable comes in...

Also like RDL said, new shoes will help, i just got mine on eGay for $30 for both sets of shoes...
greythorn3
08-01-2009, 04:35 AM
anyone have a pdf manual for the 83 185 s??? i dont know how to work on it.

Thanks

Ray
greythorn3
08-01-2009, 05:19 AM
i t ook the front apart and there are pads in there but i adjusted them to the max and they get dont retract and dont really stop either
Thorpe
08-01-2009, 09:12 AM
Um... Maybe new shoes, like mentioned before...
Lukeatc185
08-01-2009, 09:44 AM
new pads forsure, you can only tighten the brake up so much.
greythorn3
08-01-2009, 03:34 PM
what are the thickness of the new show friction material? cause the one that are on it have 1/16"-1/8" of material, but mostly closest to the 1/16"


Ray
MonroeMike
08-01-2009, 04:06 PM
what are the thickness of the new show friction material? cause the one that are on it have 1/16"-1/8" of material, but mostly closest to the 1/16"


Ray

3/16", I just measured the set I bought.
greythorn3
08-02-2009, 02:45 AM
well heck then it seems i have pleanty of pad, if i only about 1 - 2 16ths down! must be another problem, i can get them to lock up with my hand, but they dont release.
greythorn3
08-03-2009, 10:23 PM
you guys know a good place that isnt superexpensive online to order brakes for my 185s and a gas cap seal?
harryredtrike
08-03-2009, 10:34 PM
thats all the wear you get.yours are out of spec.buy new ones,ebay 13.00
zppeacock
08-04-2009, 12:57 AM
Ebay, I just did the front and rear brakes on my 185s for $35
greythorn3
08-04-2009, 02:05 AM
wow thats good! thanks guys!
greythorn3
08-04-2009, 06:19 PM
ordered front and rear brakes along with wheelbearings, couldnt find a gas cap seal though! anyone know where to get one of those? mines cracked apart
greythorn3
08-10-2009, 08:01 PM
got my brakes and bearings in 10 minutes ago. will do the front when my wife gets home tonight so she can watch our baby.. cant wait to feel them front brakes work!


might do the rears tomarrow since i have new rears and rear bearings too.
greythorn3
08-11-2009, 02:23 AM
well got the bearings and the brakes in the front, man anyone know where to download a pdf manual for a 83 atc honda 185s???? if so please let me know where.. my brakes grab good, when i spin them, but i have to move the wheel again and they release slowly.. thinking maybe im missing a spring on the outside like my 200s has for the front brakes.. the cable is a little stiff though too.. i did soak the cable in oil.. it helped but isnt as free moving as a nice new one.. might have to order one.

Ray
greythorn3
08-11-2009, 03:12 AM
nevermind i have the pdf already! although it doesnt show a exploded view of a 83 185s fromt drum brake hub assembly! anyone have a pic of what should be all on a 185s drum brake hub?
MonroeMike
08-11-2009, 09:13 AM
http://www.xtremeusa.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=116945&category=ATVs&make=HONDA&year=1983&fveh=2792
oscarmayer
08-11-2009, 09:31 AM
i have a factory honda service manual in my sig. there's a link to honda stuff. the 200s is the exact same rear brake as your 185s.
greythorn3
08-11-2009, 02:57 PM
http://www.xtremeusa.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=116945&category=ATVs&make=HONDA&year=1983&fveh=2792

thank you, perfect! looks like i got everything i need.. must be the sticky cable.. will soak again..

I am working on the front brake system, and it seems different then my 200s's front brake, the 200s has a external spring on the arm.


Ray
MonroeMike
08-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Make sure you clean the hole real good in the drum, where the cam goes though (so it operates freely).
greythorn3
08-11-2009, 03:14 PM
Make sure you clean the hole real good in the drum, where the cam goes though (so it operates freely).

i didnt clean that hole.. maybe i will pull it back apart and clean it, seems to move fairly easy though when i had the brake out
Vealmonkey
08-11-2009, 03:40 PM
Take an old tire innertube and cut one by hand. You have to be a little more resourceful than that if you have a trike. You also might want to look into buying some cork gasket at your local auto store and cutting a cork gasket if you don't have any rubber handy. Also if you have your front end taken apart, make sure and clean up all your parts and lubricate them so the move smoothly. You might also need an o ring for your brake actuating shaft. Some trikes take the o ring and some don't. Try and get new springs for your brake shoes if they don't come in the kit, they will help your brake return and don't forget to lube your brake cable inside the housing. Who knows how long it's been since the last time it was lubed. Get on out and do some much needed maintenance on that trike.