View Full Version : Who does porting?
fabiodriven
07-20-2009, 12:10 AM
I'm thinking of putting my spare top-end on my Tecate, I think she may be getting a bit tired. My spare consists of a regular Tecate cylender with a new sleeve and wiseco piston. I haven't looked at it in a while but I don't think there is any port work done to it other than the regular port matching done when the sleeve was installed.
The cylender I run now is original nikasil from 85 and heavily ported. I know these machines are known to be fast anyways, but I'm pretty sure my port job keeps her way out in front of the Honda's and Yami's. I really don't want to take a step backwards in HP so I'm looking to get my new cylender ported.
I'm thinking Corey Sprock might do this but I don't know for sure. Any suggestions?
I know a guy here, that's been doing it for the Last 30 years, at a shop, Dose Wicked work, but its not cheap, Just something to keep in mind ;)
Daddio
07-20-2009, 12:21 AM
Denny at Flotek does all of the porting for 1upfront and me.
http://flotekperformance.com/
fabiodriven
07-20-2009, 01:30 AM
Thanks, Daddio. That place looks really good and really reasonable. You know anybody who has that hole cut in their piston skirt like that? For $30 bucks I wonder if it's worth it.
Kintore
07-20-2009, 07:36 AM
Jason Hall here on the boards is the best of the best no questions asked!
MagicJames
07-20-2009, 07:41 AM
I would say Dave Moore of Dave Moore racing but someone told me he quit doing it very recently.
Saleenster
07-20-2009, 08:04 AM
I would say Dave Moore of Dave Moore racing but someone told me he quit doing it very recently.
Correct, He is no longer in business, but still ports on the side. He has kept all his equipment and dyno.
Everybody has their people whom are the best in their mind. Find the one that best suites your needs and price range. If its just a stock jug, most can do a decent job.
Jason Hall here on the boards is the best of the best no questions asked!
Werd!!!!!:naughty:
brrcuda
07-20-2009, 09:46 AM
I'm thinking of putting my spare top-end on my Tecate, I think she may be getting a bit tired. My spare consists of a regular Tecate cylender with a new sleeve and wiseco piston. I haven't looked at it in a while but I don't think there is any port work done to it other than the regular port matching done when the sleeve was installed.
The cylender I run now is original nikasil from 85 and heavily ported. I know these machines are known to be fast anyways, but I'm pretty sure my port job keeps her way out in front of the Honda's and Yami's. I really don't want to take a step backwards in HP so I'm looking to get my new cylender ported.
I'm thinking Corey Sprock might do this but I don't know for sure. Any suggestions?
And the truth comes out after all..........haha......;) shens
DeePa
07-20-2009, 11:35 AM
i do great porting...send it my way
and ill put a hole in the piston too...right in the center of the dome. Hoosier says thats the best
fabiodriven
07-20-2009, 09:21 PM
i do great porting...send it my way
and ill put a hole in the piston too...right in the center of the dome. Hoosier says thats the best
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
mmiguy2103
07-20-2009, 10:34 PM
i have been porting and polishing for over 10 yrs now, i have over 100 engines under my belt. i have ported everything from my wheelers to my nissan frontier
The Goat
07-21-2009, 01:04 AM
I really wish 86 250r would post on here again...there's an old guy locally who's pushing 80 who does portwork.
The owner of the bike went to the samehighschool as me and swears by it. Some people have the book knowledge to do it, others just have the gift.
You could try contacting that member...
86 250r is the name he's from plaquemine, la and his name is clint
Hoosier_Daddy
08-13-2009, 12:25 PM
I'd go with Jason Hall
Hoosier_Daddy
08-13-2009, 12:30 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I thought you and i were cool. Why laugh at that?
Russell 350X
08-13-2009, 02:05 PM
I thought you and i were cool. Why laugh at that?
Well, why not? :lol: :lol: :beer
Jason Hall does some seriously awesome work, send it his way, you won't be disappointed.
fabiodriven
08-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Oh stop it Hoosier!
Hoosier_Daddy
08-13-2009, 06:14 PM
Oh stop it Hoosier!
I'm just saying, why encourage his 12 year old behavior? Why is it that if i dared go around and make posts about him such as that, I get infractions? I hope I get the chance to meet him at trikefest one of these days. I wonder if he'd become an instant gentleman when he's not hiding behind his monitor?
BTW, do you have any good places to get your cylinders nikasil plated? I finally found a KX cylinder in good shape but it needs plated. I don't know if I'll get it ported, maybe mildly ported but it needs re-niked.
I got the cases split and am cleaning them up. Not a full polish but making them shiny and I'd like to make the cylinder match. I'll be trying to get the 85 T3 restored this winter. Still deciding what color to powder the frame but leaning toward green. The 86 front end and swing arm are a big improvement in handling. And with that KX cylinder and PVL ignition, I hope it openes up the power. I hope I'll be able to land a Bassani but since they are so rare I'll likely end up with a DG. Wish me luck bro.
NOS_350X
08-13-2009, 06:43 PM
This is a very tough question. There are a million guys out there that can do good work. And everyone is going to claim theres is the best. I have built some tecates that haul ass, i do my banshee. Everthing runs very well. But when it comes down to it i dont want to touch your stuff.
I like to have the whole engine here in front of me. I have many things i want to check before im done. I dont like to just port it and let you put it together and go.
If its slow its probably not soemthing i did, but a ring gap is too big. squish band isnt right, I dont know your jetting your trying to run, that could be all off. Sooo many factors. Find somone that has a bike that you like the power of, Find out who did it.
fabiodriven
08-13-2009, 06:51 PM
BTW, do you have any good places to get your cylinders nikasil plated?
I'm not sure of any place that does plating, hoosier. I've always been an advocate of sleeving myself.
oscarmayer
08-13-2009, 06:51 PM
^ thread hi-jacker!!! :P
Mon-goose Dose some nice work as far as plating go's
Hoosier_Daddy
08-13-2009, 07:16 PM
I'm not sure of any place that does plating, hoosier. I've always been an advocate of sleeving myself.
Sorry to highjack your thread. I just didn't want to start a new thread for plating questions. I'll research it. Thanks bro.
Tecate 50
08-13-2009, 07:41 PM
Google Eric Gore. @ Forward Motion. By far the best for Kawasaki's! Once he is done he ships it across the street for re-chroming. Located in Wisconsin....
Hoosier_Daddy
08-13-2009, 10:05 PM
Just got a PM from Jason Hall. I'll be letting him do my porting when I'm ready. You can't beat his great reputation.
The Goat
08-13-2009, 10:21 PM
he certainly knows his stuff. makes me wonder how his 4stroke porting is.
bansheejoel
08-13-2009, 11:03 PM
kevin at HURR JUGS RACING. or jeff at F.A.S.T. racing both do amazing work, hands down one of the best. A@S racing, RB racing, flo-tech, passion, are all great
Bunnyhop
08-14-2009, 02:34 AM
I'm not sure of any place that does plating, hoosier. I've always been an advocate of sleeving myself.
Thats a good way to decrease a Tecate's strongpoint.:lol:
Millenium in WI will replate a Tecate cylinder for a reasonable fee. Please, do not sleeve a Tecate cylinder, it's a crime:(
fabiodriven
08-14-2009, 08:24 AM
Thats a good way to decrease a Tecate's strongpoint.:lol:
Millenium in WI will replate a Tecate cylinder for a reasonable fee. Please, do not sleeve a Tecate cylinder, it's a crime:(
What's your reasoning on that?
Does anybody know what he's talking about?
Hoosier_Daddy
08-14-2009, 12:40 PM
What's your reasoning on that?
Does anybody know what he's talking about?
I remember reading on here somewhere that they preferred not to sleeve the cylinders because it has to be jetted different and a couple other things I don't remember. i don't remember it being a bad option or a power loss or reliability issue though. I personally just want to plate it because I am going with my standard bore and I figured plating is easier and more durable. But what the hell do I know? lol:lol:
sblt500r
08-14-2009, 01:23 PM
i have a 86 cylinder thats been sleeved. the sleeve blocked all the ports off. i had to open the sleeve up to match the stock ports. i'm guessing when most cylinders are sleeved they don't take the time to port match. with smaller ports it will make it slower. the kx ports are huge and the sleeve was so restrictive when new. i haven't run it yet, trike is still apart.
fabiodriven
08-14-2009, 01:58 PM
If port matching is all he's referring to than it's a non-issue. Any halfway decent machinist will at least match the ports when installing a sleeve. It's almost a pre-requisit. I'm talking about getting performance porting done, which obviously is going to correct any mismatched ports, which shouldn't be there in the first place...:crazy:
Yamahondaman
08-14-2009, 02:05 PM
When a sleeve is pressed in the port's are "off-thick and distorted" Most Machinest Can't "Match Port" .. takes some time so that's where the "Port" guy's come in ..
fabiodriven
08-14-2009, 02:48 PM
IMHO, any machinist doing this kind of work should know how to port match. I worked for a machine shop years ago that specifically did boring/sleeving/small engine machining and a sleeved cylender would never leave the shop without the ports being matched. Just part of the job to me.
Hoosier_Daddy
08-14-2009, 03:13 PM
IMHO, any machinist doing this kind of work should know how to port match. I worked for a machine shop years ago that specifically did boring/sleeving/small engine machining and a sleeved cylender would never leave the shop without the ports being matched. Just part of the job to me.
You make a convincing argument. maybe i'll check ito sleeving then.
Jason Hall
08-14-2009, 05:51 PM
The biggest advantage to a nicasil plated cylinder Is heat transfer!!! Also the cast Iron sleeve will wear alot faster than nicasil. Piston rings not only seal the cylinder to make compression, but they also transfer heat Into the cylinder wall then Into the water In the water jacket. Aluminum disapates heat Lots faster than cast Iron.
FLOTEK
08-15-2009, 10:19 AM
The biggest advantage to a nicasil plated cylinder Is heat transfer!!! Also the cast Iron sleeve will wear alot faster than nicasil. Piston rings not only seal the cylinder to make compression, but they also transfer heat Into the cylinder wall then Into the water In the water jacket. Aluminum disapates heat Lots faster than cast Iron.
all good points ,also nickle/chrome plate cylinders generally survive a seizure with much less damage than one with a traditional iron liner.they are very tough!
fabiodriven
08-15-2009, 04:41 PM
I can see that nikasil must last longer, my cylender is 24 years old! I didn't really think of that. I've always liked the ability to bore I guess.
Hoosier_Daddy
08-15-2009, 08:25 PM
I can see that nikasil must last longer, my cylender is 24 years old! I didn't really think of that. I've always liked the ability to bore I guess.
What if a person wanted to put in a sleeve so they could have a 300cc kit THEN had that Nikasil plated. I bet that would kick ass.
gotballs 250r 82
12-05-2010, 07:31 AM
well it looks like Eric Gore. @ Forward Motion will be my port guy thanks for all the replys .........
Aka_am
12-06-2010, 03:31 PM
I do good 4-stroke p&p. I've always found that less is more.
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