Banana went new school, INVERTS!

[Kintore]

BEST upgrade to a trike period IMO.

I love mine! Jason Hall at Halls performance is one smart cookie!


I owe ya big time bud!

Here she sits-
Getting new grips today and a cr brake caliper to fit on there so I have front brakes!
On a side note, I had to run lower bend bars to keep my "feel" to the trike. Im on CR high bends now instead of ATV highs. Also I raised my forks up in the tripples a bit to lower it a bit to what im used to.

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[fire1]

looks sweet and your right its a awesome upgrade like riding on a different machine.

[atctim]

Looks very,very Beatner

[ATC-Eric]

Sweet Josh! Looks good.

[3leggeddog]

trailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro sick bro.I was thinking about you the other day,if you haven't serviced that rear shock since you got the bike,you really really need to do that!

trike looks sweet as trailprotrailprotrailprotrailpro man,have to let me pimp her again sometime soon

[dcreel]

Looks great, how does it ride?

[MagicJames]

What forks are those from? CR?

[Jason Hall]

Josh- looks Great, I will bring a drill & tap when I see you next time. I'll make you a number plate bracket so you can get rid of the wire ties :beer :rolleyes:

[Dammit!]

So how much does that whole setup run? The forks, heavier springs, triples, the whole nine.

[Derrick Adams]

Man... looking awesome! I bet you'll find once you get that extended swinger that you'll end up sliding those forks back down. How do they feel?

[Derrick Adams]

So how much does that whole setup run? The forks, heavier springs, triples, the whole nine.

Doug, the kit is for the triples and front axle. You need to provide your own front forks.

Jason is working on a sweet package right now that will be released soon. I'm helping him to put together the most cost effective set-up possible, so everybody can enjoy a nice smooth ride. The new set-up will be especially popular with the duner crowd, offering 12.5" of front suspension travel for those whooped out sand piles they like to play on.

There are BIG THINGS on the Horizon coming from Hall's Performance!!:w00t:

[Saul]

There are BIG THINGS on the Horizon coming from Hall's Performance!!:w00t:

Yeah but, hang now ... this won't be a 'kit' that will be talked about on messageboards for years, on and on, about how great it is and how it will changed '3-wheelers' but in reality NEVER get released - like *coff* some other *coff* 'kit' - will it?

Good show guys - looks freaking awesome - hope this gets to the Trike masses very soon! :beer

[Kintore]

Hey thanks guys

Brandon dont you worry your pretty little face, got it serviced at the start of the season.

Yah thanks alot Jason, that would be real helpful haha!


Derrick, you coming to malvern?????

[keister]

Doug, the kit is for the triples and front axle. You need to provide your own front forks.

Jason is working on a sweet package right now that will be released soon. I'm helping him to put together the most cost effective set-up possible, so everybody can enjoy a nice smooth ride. The new set-up will be especially popular with the duner crowd, offering 12.5" of front suspension travel for those whooped out sand piles they like to play on.

There are BIG THINGS on the Horizon coming from Hall's Performance!!:w00t:

..... tell me where & when to get in line ..... :D

[Kintore]

Just a quick ride report here-

well takes a bit to get used to that for sure. In order to keep my feel I had, I needed to lower them in the tripples a bit. The -1 swinger probably has something to do with this. I know some people run them flush in the tripples.

My Rebound and compression are at all the way softest settings and its about perfect. Im thinking about going a lil harder actually. 44 kg springs in there as well.


Main thing I noticed is there is no choppy feel to the forks. They just suck it up and take it. No more handlebar seizure problem when riding around. Or at least not as much. I have yet to take it off any "sweet 3 foot jumps" but ill tell you this, I have purposed nose dived everything I can find around here and it feels GREAT.
And id like to point out, the worksmanship and quality of this kit is unreal, it surpasses Team Beatner standards. Jason Hall is one smart cookie and man he does he know his stuff. Thanks alot Jason!

[The Goat]

Saul the option has always existed to buy this (kit) it exists now if you're willing to fork up the money for it.

With a +2 swinger I'm hoping to run the frot forks as is lengthwise.


Hey Josh, where'd ya get springs... You can pm if you'd rather not say, I just know my big ass is going to need a little more strength.


Long live Casper! Lol jk.

[Russell 350X]

Looks awesome Josh! When are you putting on (or getting) the +2 swinger for it? That would be a even bigger improvement to a already badass machine.

[Kintore]

Me and Billy goswiftly are in the works as we speak!

I gotta wait till after malvern before I can really do anything though.


Thanks alot guys, I thik after the swinger, and some fast flexx bars im pretty much done!

[Russell 350X]

Me and Billy goswiftly are in the works as we speak!

I gotta wait till after malvern before I can really do anything though.


Thanks alot guys, I thik after the swinger, and some fast flexx bars im pretty much done!

You know just as well as I do, it will never be done!! lol.

[gutterworks129]

That set looks great! So a CR caliper will fit the KTM forks? I need a set up on my MX Tri-Z I'm building.

[Kintore]

HAHA rusty, ya the more I think about it the more your right. Still wouldnt mind
Rockstar/makita graphics kit, new front tire, fast flexx bars, swinger, new quad rate elka, chromoly frame.....


I doubt it gutterworks,

look for a thread by Fire1, he is using KTM85 forks.


Reasons I went with CR125 forks
A- I had them already
B- Ive heard from some people the KTM's just cant take the weight, and they blow seals once a year or so. Not sure if this is true but this is just what I heard
C- Bigger is ALWAYS better! haha

[Mosh]

It is no secret, that just about anything Mr. Hall puts his hands on, turns out nothing short of extraordinary.
I have been hooping and hollering about his porting knowledge for 2 years.

I only wish I had a tenth the knowledge he has.
And to top it all off, he is so down to earth, he will hang and BS about anything, with anyone.
He is truely a indisposable asset to us.

Jason, if it is the last set-up of this invert deal ever made.... please, put my name down for one.
Not that I can use it to it's full potential, but I will try.
Man I gots to gets some overtime in....

And Josh....You still have to get around that Damn motor he ported of mine...LMAO.

[Bryan Raffa]

cheeter bike..lol

[gutterworks129]

For sure, that is a better fork to use then a KTM, plus I would keep it all Honda parts, it just seems right. If I do this on my Tri-Z I would use YZ forks to use on build.

[Kintore]

haha thanks Rob!

new swinger should help that! First ever Eastcoast swinger WOOT WOOT!

[The Goat]

Funny you should say that kintore, I'm searching for some one to make some Gulfcoast graphics.

[SeaBass8]

Thats an awesome setup. Looks great.

I looked in the R&D forum and don't see anything on this kit. Are they one-off order type thing?

Would this be over kill on a trail bike? Would it be worth it to do this setup on a 2nd gen 200x used for trails and small jumps?

I was looking at CR forks on feebay and there not that expensive. What year CR forks are you using?

Jason maybe you could start a thread on this kit in the R&D section? Price, specs, whats included, what you need to buy seperately and what models this setup would work on and such.

Thanks

[Louis Mielke]

I've got a feeling he's working on something like that.

[Kintore]

I have 96 cr125 forks,

the ride over my progressive front end trail R is impressive!

but you know how trail riding goes, it gets rolled, beaten. All up to you if you want to spend the money for it, I personally think no matter what inverts are the ticket to greatness. I would not get rid of mine for anything.....Well maybe Taylor Swift. haha

[Eric250R]

Taylor Swift :drool: :drool: :drool: :lol: :w00t: But seriously, you guys are killing me, I have way too many projects going on and now I have something else to try and scrap up some cash for. Thanks alot.

[Jason Hall]

Once everything Is sorted out, I will post the spec's and the different kits that will be available In the new product forum. As time goes by and people decide they want them for different machine's, more will be available.

As for Invert's on a trail bike, these things are SWEET no matter where they are used. For those that don't know, with these forks you can adjust the compression and rebound valving. This adjust's how fast the oil bleeds through the forks. It's not just turn the clicker and you don't feel anything. When you turn these adjusters, you can feel the difference right NOW. These forks are Light Years ahead of the stock units. Most of the stock trike forks have pre drilled hole's In the dampening rods, the Inverts use shimms along with adjustable restrictors to change the volume of oil that flows through the valve's & shimms. If your on high speed trails with small quick bumps, you can soften up the compression and the little bumps are soaked In. If you get Into bigger whoops, you can stiffen them up some. If you jump, you can stiffen the compression even more. The coolest part with these forks Is the rebound adjustment. everytime the suspension compresses, It then has to rebound. You can adjust this action to keep the front end from bouncing back up. For those that have jumped a stock trike you will understand what I mean. When the front end compresses and bottoms out, the rebound action Is kinda Brutal with the stock forks.

With alot of help from some friends here on the boards, the Inverted forks and a few other goodies will be much more available within the next couple weeks.

As of right now the KTM forks are the correct length. Another set that are the correct length, and do have great adjustability are the cr85,Rm85, these are smaller In diameter (chrome Tube) than the KTM forks, but might work for someone on a 200x. I'm checking to see what size custom springs can be made for the smaller 85cc forks.

[SeaBass8]

Thanks for that info. Ive never ridden anything with inverts to know what the ride difference is. :lol:

I was thinking the cr125 forks were gonna be a little tall for the 200x. I'm gonna see what the availability of the cr85 and ktm80 forks are.

I think if you can design a kit for the 1st and 2nd gen 200x you'll get a larger amount of potential buyers for the kits. :naughty:

Hey thanks for taking the time I appreciate it.

:beer

[Derrick Adams]

It should also be mentioned that Josh's forks are the 1st generation of Halls Performance modified CR125 forks. These are highly modified, one-off units. I'm mentioning this because I don't want you to think you can simply just bolt on CR125 forks and have them work. They are approximately 5" longer than stock 250R forks.

The new generation of CR125 fork kits coming from Halls Performance will offer increased wheel travel, correct ride height and easy installation. This kit is still in the R&D stages.

The KTM 85 fork kit is finished and available right now.

[Jason Hall]

SeaBass8, the first generation 200x kinda scares me LOL. I would recommend some reinforcment to the steering head on the 83-85 200x frame. Thats the only trike I have seen break the front of the frame right off!!!

[SeaBass8]

It should also be mentioned that Josh's forks are the 1st generation of Halls Performance modified CR125 forks. These are highly modified, one-off units. I'm mentioning this because I don't want you to think you can simply just bolt on CR125 forks and have them work. They are approximately 5" longer than stock 250R forks.

The new generation of CR125 fork kits coming from Halls Performance will offer increased wheel travel, correct ride height and easy installation. This kit is still in the R&D stages.

The KTM 85 fork kit is finished and available right now.


Thanks for clarifying that for me. Makes sense now.




SeaBass8, the first generation 200x kinda scares me LOL. I would recommend some reinforcment to the steering head on the 83-85 200x frame. Thats the only trike I have seen break the front of the frame right off!!!


LOL yeah I hear ya. I'm really only looking at the 2nd gen 200x but didnt want to leave out the 1st gen 200x folks. :D

Edit: So would the cr85 forks need to be modified (shortened) or are they gonna work in stock form?

Ok last of my questions in this thread I'll wait til you get a thread going in the R&D forum.

Thanks again guys

[Derrick Adams]

The CR85/ RM85 forks should work in stock trim, although the spring rates are going to be off, so new springs will be needed.

[Kintore]

Ok, ride report!

Hit Malvern raceway up this past weekend, 4/5th gear tables, step up's and step downs.

First time out, the rebound was set right but my compression was way STIFF. Causing me to launch nose high every time, so the first few laps I had to to the lean forward and lock the rear brake up trick mid flight.

Came back to camp and found out the Compression was all the way stiff, so me being me I said screw it, and went all the way soft. After that it felt AWESOME.

Best upgrade you can buy, HIGHLY reccomend it to anyone for anything. It soaks up casing jumps like its nothing, no more bumpity bump bump when riding around. The front forks actually move and soak/absorb jumps/bumps whatever you throw at them.

One thing I did find, is (as Jason reccomended). Rebound should be set all the way hard, and the comp should be very soft. Mine is all the way soft, but for bigger jumps/whoops im going to stiffen it up a bit. Nice thing is the adjustability of them. A few clicks makes a world of difference.


I cant say enough for Jasons workmanship, the guy is a shear genious. Thanks Jason, owe ya my life.

[Bigbore]

A set of triples for cr85 inverts would be COOL as hell for the 200X. I'd be there for a set.

[ATCeeya]

How much are these kits I am definately interested in going inverts on my R, my front shocks are cookied right now

[Derrick Adams]

The kits retail for $500 and you need to get your own forks and front brake assembly.