Stolen 3 and 4 wheelers

**brapp** · 06-10-2009, 10:06 PM

anyone that sees my toys also sees what i carry on a daily basis and what i have flatign around the house and i have met a few with the barrel of an ar15 peple that have showed up un announced.

**ditchmud** · 06-10-2009, 10:21 PM

A good defense will better your chances at holding onto your posessions.

I know that I am very particular about who enters my garage. My garage door stays down mostly and my stuff is under blankets. It can't hurt not to advertise what you have. Also My dogs live in my garage and are rewarded when they bark at strangers or in the middle of the night.

One night scooby was going crazy around 3am so I got up grabbed the flashlight and the 45. Turns out the police were searching my yard for the neighbors kid that ran from them. So I know that the dog is on the job, and he got a lot of treats that night.

**250rAL** · 06-11-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by ditchmud

A good defense will better your chances at holding onto your posessions.

I know that I am very particular about who enters my garage. My garage door stays down mostly and my stuff is under blankets. It can't hurt not to advertise what you have. Also My dogs live in my garage and are rewarded when they bark at strangers or in the middle of the night.

One night scooby was going crazy around 3am so I got up grabbed the flashlight and the 45. Turns out the police were searching my yard for the neighbors kid that ran from them. So I know that the dog is on the job, and he got a lot of treats that night.

Yikes! You're lucky you didn't get shot by the police.

**ditchmud** · 06-11-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by 250rAL

Yikes! You're lucky you didn't get shot by the police.

No worries, I never left the Garage and I saw them before they saw me. I also had the gun in my waistband not in the drawn position.

**MotorCity** · 06-11-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by seanndenise

i wholeheartedly agree my friend.

but unless you have between 30,000-250,000 dollars laying around you had better be ready to hand everything you own over to someone like me to defend you, average defense for a murder charge is $60,000, unless you are poor, then the tax payers will pay for it.

unless you are in texas, i dont really know the law there, you kill someone without cause, stealing your property is not cause, you will be doing at least time for manslaughter, and you wouldnt want to do that in the states i work in. i guarantee you would be weeping like a child when i walked away with your house title and you were led away in handcuffs to your new home for the next 10 years.
i have seen people who talk big game and acted on it only to have thier lives and familys lives completely wrecked over nothing really, its quite sad.

just remember your kid could turn out to be a thief, i hope for your sake noone shoots him for stealing a gas can.

What a

... this is why I cant stand lawyers. "YOu better be ready to hand over everything you own to someone like ME"..... "I gaurantee you'd be weeping like a child when I walked away with your house title"....

You sound like the typical scumbucket lawyer who thinks his

doesnt' stink and that everybody is below them. Go piss up a rope.

**MotorCity** · 06-11-2009, 10:45 PM

Too bad my last post had most blotted out. I just can't stand the arrogance of lawyers. (excuse me, liars). I just cant stand the effin arrogance of this douchebags post, what a dickwad.

**ditchmud** · 06-12-2009, 08:31 AM

Feelings are mutual Motorcity, but we need to get this thread back on topic (no offense intended). Have you ever had something stolen and recovered it? Do you think that the economy is to blame for the rise in theft?

**Jonpin** · 06-13-2009, 04:06 AM

Im tired so i didnt get a chance to read every post but damn i agree alot thievs are scum and if someone intentionally whats to cause harm or go in to someones home and do whatever,i think they should no longer have human rights then. And its sad that the judicial system is more based on making money and or protecting the criminal and not the victim.

**lookinforone** · 06-13-2009, 09:25 AM

well i just read this whole post.
im pretty sure that you CAN NOT kill somebody for stealing your property.
now, here in Oklahoma we have the "make my day" law. so that if somebody
enters your home, uninvited, you can protect yourself. armed or not.
and you cant draw your weapon unless you plan on killing the person.
that means no shooting in the legs.

now im sure that every state has some laws, and you can proly go get a book
on them. here they have the "Self Defense Act" book. call your local sheriff
office to find out if your area has something like that.

and no im not a lawyer, i just took my CCW class last weekend. and i stayed
at a holiday inn express last night

and no ive never had a trike stolen. ive been worried cuz right now my
trike is on my dads trailer in his driveway.

**Shawn72** · 06-13-2009, 07:12 PM

Keep them locked up and secure. Simple as that. There are thieves everywhere that def notice when we unload our trikes and quads into our garages. People sometimes get lazy with the security of thier property. That's when you get hit.
BTW if you do catch someone trying to steal your babies beat them with bat instead of shootingand killing them. It shows the judge you have mercy. : )

**TDS** · 03-15-2010, 02:45 PM

i just came across this post i know its old. but few yrs ago i acquired a blaster in a trade deal for a warrior i had. blaster had some race parts and was fun to ride. the warrior was older. we signed bill of sales etc.

well a yr later i get bored put it on craiglist and had ton of lowballers then i get a call from a guy they wanted it for his kid had cash in hand. i said cool come on over. he shows up with prior bill of sale and could explain ever little defect or custom on and end on it. got stolen out of his garage a yr and a half prior.

basically this guy rammed his garage door in and stole the blaster. i was in possession of stolen property. i then gave him the blaster back, he went on his way with out calling the police. i was stuck nothign i could really do.

i also had a buddy who had a banshee stolen from his steel pole barn in the middle of the night, these people cut a hole in the side of the garage and rolled it out.

i had a 97z50 honda trial bike get stolen out of the garage. i had it for 2 weeks. we had electricians working on the house (landlords), one guy saw the bike and was interested in buying it i said not at the moment, 2 days later locks cut off the garage and so was the cable lock attached to the z50

the problem is the people that know what you have and know your scheduled. i lock all my running bikes together with 2 separate locks. either in my shed or garage with a car always in front of it.

**whyzee** · 03-15-2010, 04:02 PM

gotta go with the dog (rottwieller) for security. I feel safe when my wife is home alone, and safe when I am sleeping, always!
Doesn't do much good though if they steal it from your cabin when you do not live there fulltime.

**200XMichigan** · 03-15-2010, 04:41 PM

I'd say the economy is a huge part of it, when things first started going down the toilet there were people so desperate around here they were going around to houses and ripping out the copper pipe. I mean someone has to be pretty hard up to rip the walls out of a house and risk their freedom for $100 in scrap metal. And I don't know how many people read "news of the weird", but I have read of a few times people robbed a store and also asked for an job app. Not a good way to get hired.

Around here a guy was getting his 4 wheeler stolen and he shot the thieves in the ass with a shot gun blast, not slugs, didn't kill any of them. But he got his 4 wheeler back and even though in Michigan he was totally outside of the law shooting people fleeing, he didn't go to jail.

Usually the law protects criminals way too much. And while I'd like to believe karma is just going to get the thieves I am not always that patient, sometimes you have to make your own karma. When I was 19 we ran my Jeep out of gas and had to walk 3 miles in the rain to get gas. About a mile down the road some kids a couple years younger than us started throwing the contents of their car, pop bottles, anything at us and yelling "We gonna f--- you up." Well they never stopped their car and we were on foot, just getting more and more angry. Well the next morning after I got some gas for my Jeep, karma came in the form of my Jeep ramming their Ford Taurus at 40 mph. So sometimes maybe karma is the shotgun.

**ditchmud** · 03-15-2010, 05:06 PM

3 times in the last 3 weeks a would be robber was shot and killed here in Toledo.
In all 3 cases the victims being robbed did not get charged in the deaths of the crooks. In one case the crooks accomplice is being charged for him being shot and killed. Makes me happy to know that maybe the crooks around here will be afraid for their safety, and that if I have to protect myself that I can do it legally. woot!

**cattle-dog** · 03-15-2010, 05:46 PM

i think it should be a eye for a eye, in other countrys you steal you lose a hand , then it gets worse if you keep it up, they dont house and feed you, i chain all my toys to my tractor and the only way you are cutting my chain is with a torch same with my lock my chain was $100 and my lock was $50 oh i for got about midas alarm system 140lb bullmastiff. you will not leave my property with my toys or your body. a prime example a huge german shepard had been killing niehborhood dogs no one knew where he was from well one dark night i was walking midas and the shepard attaked midas shook him once and he was done in the morning i called the spca, if it was a thief i would call my friend the coroner.

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